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Any word on this year's prolific tournament?

Dark Vortex | Posted 6/26/2008 8:49:15 PM | message detail
I'm not seeing any sort of announcement topic.
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StarFighters76 | Posted 6/26/2008 8:50:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, don't we normally get one at this time?
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Gbness | Posted 6/26/2008 9:02:17 PM | message detail
I was actually wondering about that too. Even though I've barely produced any work in two years. ;]
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Devin Morgan | Posted 6/26/2008 9:02:25 PM | message detail
I was kind of planning on just retiring the tournament after last year's. I also liked how last year's was the 10th tourney, so I figured why not end it for good at a nice even number...

But seriously though, there are 98 prolific writers currently on the 4MB+ list. If there really is an interest for such a tourney to take place, I'll once again do it. But rather than jump to it right away, I'd like to see what others may have to say about it (in this topic perhaps)... Anything at all, suggestions, comments, complaints...

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GhostOfLegault | Posted 6/26/2008 9:09:19 PM | message detail
I've always enjoyed them, and it certainly helps that I am eligible this year.

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bodo_parkour | Posted 6/26/2008 9:20:50 PM | message detail
How about some twist on the tournament?
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Dark Vortex | Posted 6/26/2008 9:23:47 PM | message detail
I'd be interested. The good thing about this year is that there are plenty of new writers on the prolific list, so the tournament wouldn't be a complete rehash of previous tournaments.
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Super Slash | Posted 6/26/2008 9:35:47 PM | message detail
I say go for it. I always enjoy these things.
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TrulyDexterous | Posted 6/26/2008 10:08:30 PM | message detail
It's something I would like to see. It's something to liven things up a bit right? Maybe it would be an idea to have something a little different this time around. Possibly in the way you vote (e.g. point allocation) or the actual bracket (e.g. 2 bowls?).
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A I e x | Posted 6/26/2008 10:19:09 PM | message detail
Considering it's 99% the same people each year, and it's not like anything they've written since (if even anything in most cases) is going to really make much difference on peoples' opinions, it seems like an enormous amount of work for something that's essentially already been done.
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Super Slash | Posted 6/26/2008 10:24:09 PM | message detail
^Yeah, but there are also different matchups each year.
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Devin Morgan | Posted 6/26/2008 10:25:32 PM | message detail
Well, one thing I've noticed is that there is an influx of new people coming around in the last year. I see lots of old faces, but I see just as many new ones as well. While a large amount of the people on the list last year are still going to be on it this time, there are a lot of newcomers as well I see looking at the list right now.

If the tourney does happen, the general concept behind it won't change. I think it's fair since everyone has come to know how these operate. If someone else wants to run their own thing, that's up to them, but this is my creation. However, my "twist" would be to have two brackets this time so there is no three-way that comes from a pure 96-person bracket. We have 98 prolifics currently; why not have a 64 bracket and a 32 one, then run them both to completion, and have the winner of each go against each other to decide who the champion of the overall tournament is. Perhaps the top 32 in one, and 33-96 in the other? I don't know. It was just an idea I came up with should any of this even come to being.

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Gbness | Posted 6/26/2008 10:41:37 PM | message detail
^ That sounds like a good idea actually. It'd definitely spice things up.

And I disagree with people saying the tourney this year would be, for instance, the same as last year. The first thing to note is that there will obviously be 96 people in this one instead of 64 in the last one, plus while a lot of authors have been rather static lately, particularly the older ones, there's a ton of new ones who keep on contributing new work, some of which can easily stand up against the old ones. So I see no reason that the tourney is old. Especially since it is an annual thing, after all, and there's some new writers to look at.
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Super Slash | Posted 6/26/2008 10:45:50 PM | message detail
Agreed, Gbness.
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warfreak | Posted 6/26/2008 11:03:40 PM | message detail
I'm being compared with the old legends, nice. However, my work standing up to them. Look at it this way, they're driving a tank, and I've got a single rocket to shoot it down with. Possible, but anything is possible
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Space Medafighter X | Posted 6/26/2008 11:35:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, the last here has got a lot of new people in, so it should be fairly refreshing.

I like the two bracket idea of 32 and 64 each, though
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Agressionless | Posted 6/26/2008 11:45:07 PM | message detail
what about this...

put everyone in the same bracket, but randomize the rankings. This will make the bracket much different than ever before, but keep everyone in it.
A I e x | Posted 6/27/2008 12:06:19 AM | message detail
or just do it for people who have actually done anything in the past 12 months. that was you avoid the same thing that happens with that gamefaqs character battle where people just vote differently every year out of boredom even though nothing has changed.
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Devin Morgan | Posted 6/27/2008 12:06:53 AM | message detail
How do you propose it can be truly randomized though? That's the problem.

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StarFighters76 | Posted 6/27/2008 12:27:00 AM | message detail
Draw names out of a hat?
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Gbness | Posted 6/27/2008 1:01:08 AM | message detail
Nah, I think the 1-32 and 33-96 is enough to randomize the seedings. Face it, #32 has much more of a chance against #1 than #96.
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Space Medafighter X | Posted 6/27/2008 1:02:17 AM | message detail
I agree with Gbness
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Deathborn 668 | Posted 6/27/2008 1:26:05 AM | message detail
I was looking forward to it because I'd finally be in it. But yeah, I like Gbness' idea.
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Devin Morgan | Posted 6/27/2008 1:38:31 AM | message detail
StarFighters76 | Posted 6/26/2008 7:27:00 PM | message detail
Draw names out of a hat?


That would be interesting... but to verify it? I doubt anyone really wants to see a film of me sitting here drawing 96 names out of a hat, one at a time... >_>

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Gbness | Posted 6/27/2008 1:43:38 AM | message detail
^ That's not verification, hell maybe you could have fixed that ;]

Guess we could take your word for it.
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StarFighters76 | Posted 6/27/2008 1:44:02 AM | message detail
Well, if you put a video of such on Youtube, I'm sure people has sat through worse on there :)
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Deathborn 668 | Posted 6/27/2008 2:03:55 AM | message detail
Do the video thing. At the very least I've always wondered what you look like, DM.
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Dark Vortex | Posted 6/27/2008 2:05:24 AM | message detail
Haha, well there's always another viable option: randomizer programs. There are probably a few free ones lying around on the internet.
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StarFighters76 | Posted 6/27/2008 3:00:01 AM | message detail
Do the video thing. At the very least I've always wondered what you look like, DM.

IIRC from a picture I've seen of him (assuming that was him, it was years ago), he looks like a skater. >_>
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warfreak | Posted 6/27/2008 3:02:40 AM | message detail
pics or we don't believe you
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Agressionless | Posted 6/27/2008 3:13:38 AM | message detail
maybe do something like an alternating bracket. Like first seed is 1. last seed is 2. 3rd seed is 3. 4th seed is second to last. and so on. that would probably be the best way.
TripleJumpMB | Posted 6/27/2008 3:13:54 AM | message detail
Check his IGN profile.
Devin Morgan | Posted 6/27/2008 3:22:38 AM | message detail
No pic on IGN. The only place you will find a picture of me is my Myspace/Facebook, and even then, the most recent pictures on there of myself are from at least 10 months ago...

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TripleJumpMB | Posted 6/27/2008 6:19:53 AM | message detail
There used to be one there :O
Blueberry Buttface | Posted 6/27/2008 9:21:22 AM | message detail
Well, if you want random, you could do it in excell or openoffice calc:

http://www.openofficetips.com/blog/archives/2005/10/random_sort.html

I just tested it in openoffice and it works.
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selmiak | Posted 6/27/2008 9:31:30 AM | message detail
A I e x | Posted 6/27/2008 1:06:19 AM | message detail
or just do it for people who have actually done anything in the past 12 months. that was you avoid the same thing that happens with that gamefaqs character battle where people just vote differently every year out of boredom even though nothing has changed.


My thoughts exactly but to simplify things I would do this for people with '07 or '08 Contributions on their CRP (which are 18 months+).

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Rampidzier | Posted 6/27/2008 9:35:08 AM | message detail
You know, as a computer programmer, it's not hard to write a randomization program into C++ or any language for that matter.

I could come up with a program to do so real quick like. In fact, I could probably just modify one of my sorting algorithms to simply randomize instead of sort.
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TrulyDexterous | Posted 6/27/2008 10:14:50 AM | message detail
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brian sulpher | Posted 6/27/2008 4:39:58 PM | message detail
I will draw names... hell I will even put together the brackets and put it up on youtube for all to see with audio commentary as I go along.
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warfreak | Posted 6/28/2008 12:11:15 AM | message detail
Brian hosting the lottery. Man, doing that on youtube would be a great start.
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PeTeRL90 | Posted 6/28/2008 6:49:33 AM | message detail
Brian picking names out of a hat?

Man. He's gonna pick my name and throw it away because I make fun of him being Canadian. But it's oh so worth it.

I wouldn't mind seeing another tournament though.
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brian sulpher | Posted 6/28/2008 3:22:40 PM | message detail
I would buy a webcam just to do this.
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Space Medafighter X | Posted 6/29/2008 4:12:16 AM | message detail
BTW, if you don't want to do it because you like stopping it at 'PT10', just rename it to 'The King of FAQers'

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Meowthnum1 | Posted 6/29/2008 6:00:53 AM | message detail
I agree with the randomizing. That's a great idea. It'll give some variation to the tournament; however, would you still split the brackets if you did it that way? It seems to be less important to split the brackets if the seeds are randomized. The tournament is a staple of the board, though, and I/we always run the non-prolific tournament as a warm-up for this one.
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PeTeRL90 | Posted 6/29/2008 4:57:44 PM | message detail
BTW, if you don't want to do it because you like stopping it at 'PT10', just rename it to 'The King of FAQers'

I see what you did there.
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Space Medafighter X | Posted 6/29/2008 11:28:09 PM | message detail
Uh, what?

I mean, yeah, I'm parodying King of Fighters, but I don't quite get what else you mean.
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PeTeRL90 | Posted 6/29/2008 11:56:43 PM | message detail
Yeah, that's what I was pointing out, hence the bolded part.
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TripleJumpMB | Posted 6/30/2008 2:44:00 AM | message detail
What about the female FAQers? Are they the king too?
Space Medafighter X | Posted 6/30/2008 2:56:21 AM | message detail
Yes.

"Regent of FAQers" or "Monarchs of FAQers" or any other gender-neutral words doesn't sound as good as "King of FAQers"
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TrulyDexterous | Posted 6/30/2008 7:20:14 PM | message detail
Pfftt! Like women should be allowed the enter...
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