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Drunky | Posted 10/30/2005 10:08:25 AM | message detail
I dont like the way GR doesnt seperate the FAQs. They load them in a page with the header/sidebar/ads.

But they are a nice site, friendly admins.
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savior | Posted 11/14/2005 3:38:22 PM | message detail
Hey there. My name is Kevin and I am the owner/operator of StuckGamer.com, and I am also a contributor to this site. I'm just posting because I would like for StuckGamer.com to be listed as a "safe" site.

StuckGamer hosts work from a handful of contributors currently. I have never taken a document without an author's permission, and I always post documents completely unaltered. There are no headers/footers/etc. on text doc pages and I do not charge for any of the content on the site. I've also helped (at the request of the author) turn a plain text doc into a page with links for easy jumping around within the FAQ.

It's also important to note that I am not trying to compete with GameFAQs. I just want to offer site visitors easy access to text compendiums to my video walkthroughs.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
Philz20 | Posted 11/28/2005 9:39:46 PM | message detail
I just received an e-mail from gamerhelp.com and I was wondering if that is a trustworthy site.
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Defcon999 | Posted 11/28/2005 9:44:30 PM | message detail
GamerHelp had issues with a few GameFAQs contributors a year or so ago, but they seem to have resolved it fairly well. The staff there handles any issues of plagiarism and so forth quite well, and it's not hard to win their random gift certificate things, either. I'd say they're a good site overall.

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TinPhams | Posted 11/29/2005 7:32:33 AM | message detail
Hey guys neoseeker.com emailed me with some instructions on getting my permission to post my FAQ at there site. But I lost those instructions anyone know it
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Drunky | Posted 11/30/2005 3:05:10 AM | message detail
I think with NeoSeeker you just have to edit your FAQ to have them in your allowed list.

They should do the rest.
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TinPhams | Posted 11/30/2005 3:05:49 AM | message detail
Thanks for answering, I already got it in
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happyjoe5 | Posted 12/1/2005 5:06:33 PM | message detail
I found AOL using my FAQ without permission, but I saw the message in this topic saying they automatically get all of GFAQs FAQS. I'm still annoyed they used it without my permission, so I'm going to stop all GFAQs affiliates using it. (I wondered what the 'Full/Restricted Access' thing was for.)

I also found www.getintothegame.com has my FAQ without my permission, but I realised they just have a link to the GFAQs page. Even so, I'm going to tell them to remove the link. It actually says 'Hints & FAQs provided courtesy of GameFAQs', so does that mean GFAQs lets them do that? (I didn't see them in the affiliates list) Again, I'm going to get the link taken down anyway.
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honestgamer | Posted 12/1/2005 6:35:56 PM | message detail
I don't see why you think AOL used it without your permission. When you submitted and said any GameFAQs affiliates could use your FAQ (which you did by not specifying otherwise), you gave them your permission. The other site that was using it is the one you should be more concerned about.

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happyjoe5 | Posted 12/1/2005 7:06:49 PM | message detail
I didn't know GFAQs had any affiliates apart from GameSpot and other CNET stuff. It doesn't really explain it very well. I didn't know what that 'Full or Restricted Access' box meant until just now (But I've now set it to restricted, and added a new section to my FAQ's legal section specifically saying GameFAQs affiliates do not have permission to host the guide).

As for that site I wasn't sure about, I think it belongs to GameSpot, so again it only got the FAQ from GameFAQs and it should hopefully now be removed from there.

It's not the fact that these other sites have the FAQ, it's the principle that GameFAQs, which keeps warning people about FAQ stealing, is involved in it itself.
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Thirsty Monkey | Posted 12/7/2005 2:34:39 AM | message detail
In my walk-through, when I type this:

This entire document is (C) [year] [your name]. All trademarks are property of their respective owners. No section of this guide can be used without my permission. This includes, but is not limited to posting on your website, making links to my guide, including parts of my guide in your own, or making reference to any material contained within.

Do have to use my real name or can I use my user name? (Thirsty Monkey) I don't really want to give out my real name unless it's absolutely necessary.
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Larcen Tyler | Posted 12/7/2005 5:15:15 AM | message detail
If it's an original name you created, there's nothing wrong with using it.

Also, you might want to note that using (C) has no legal force. I know it's been done for awhile, but in reality it has no legal force in it. You should use © instead, which you can get by holding alt and pressing 0169 on your numeric keypad. Alternatively, you should use the word 'Copyright' instead.

(e.g. This document is Copyright 2005 by John Doe)

If you want to, you can also copy-and-paste the © from somewhere.
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Servant4Jesus | Posted 12/10/2005 6:12:18 PM | message detail
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They're asking.
domlikespork | Posted 12/12/2005 11:49:53 PM | message detail
From: Larcen Tyler
If it's an original name you created, there's nothing wrong with using it.

Also, you might want to note that using (C) has no legal force. I know it's been done for awhile, but in reality it has no legal force in it. You should use © instead, which you can get by holding alt and pressing 0169 on your numeric keypad. Alternatively, you should use the word 'Copyright' instead.

(e.g. This document is Copyright 2005 by John Doe)

If you want to, you can also copy-and-paste the © from somewhere.


What are you talking about? The symbol you use doesn't matter. You don't have an official copywrite anyway. Even without copywrite information at the bottom, your work is still copywritten.
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honestgamer | Posted 12/13/2005 3:37:13 AM | message detail
I recently asked a copywrite lawyer about whether or not work is legally protected from copywrite infringement once it's posted online, and he told me that in the cases where he has been involved, that did not prove to be the case. I share this so you all keep it in mind. I'd say at least including a note is useful...

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tigger93 | Posted 12/17/2005 4:19:09 AM | message detail
Anyone know how/where I can contact www.getintothegame.com to remove my walkthrough?
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PapaGamer | Posted 12/17/2005 6:16:41 AM | message detail
You can't use the © symbol in a standard ASCII text FAQ, so you should use Copyright (note the spelling please ;). I'm not sure about a lawyer who contradicts Berne convention, but if you're really confused about copyrights, read this:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

As for getintothegame, that's Target's site and they're affiliated with Gamespot and they're linking straight to the guide on GameFAQs, so you can't get them to remove your guide, but you could request your guides not be shared with Gamespot and affiliates through GameFAQs' contribution system.
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twhiting9275 | Posted 12/27/2005 11:19:24 PM | message detail
"Simply copy and paste everything between the "s and place anywhere in your guide."
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This is not enough. You MUST have a legal copyright, registered with your local government's Copyright office (most cases: US) to be of any substantial use. If you do, then you can do this, however these aren't cheap, and, as you're using trademarked and copyrighted names, informations, and more, you most likely will not get approved for this.
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"contact whoever's providing their webspace, and/or their sponsors."
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Again, you're not going to get anywhere here unless you have a LEGAL copyright, fully written, registered with the Copyright Office and follow their policies.

On the other hand, posting sites that have refused to take down uncopyrighted material , calling them "bad sites" is nothing more than defamation of character and can get yourself into a nasty lawsuit. So, these sites have used a publicly available guide, big deal!

Once you post something (especially text) on the internet, it's done, you have no rights what so ever unless you specifically register said text with the copyright offices. Taking anyone to "court" over it is just silly and ridiculous, and you'll be laughed at. Any lawyer worth their 0.02 would take the case, only because they want your money, but they know, for a fact that they will NEVER win the case. They just want your $$$.

Face it, you posted the FAQ/Guide to a site, good for you, now you're going to get it used, and most likely in more than one place.
jvgfanatic | Posted 1/1/2006 5:18:03 PM | message detail
We need a list of those sites that have popup and hostile advertisers at them. I refuse to let a site have my faq if an ad pops up at their site when I visit.
KenKennedyKenne | Posted 1/7/2006 3:17:44 PM | message detail
You can add 1upgames (1up.com) to the list. I have been there a lot, and they have not stolen any FAQs at all
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PapaGamer | Posted 1/7/2006 8:32:09 PM | message detail
Once you post something (especially text) on the internet, it's done, you have no rights what so ever

Absolutely, positively F-A-L-S-E. Berne convention guidelines specify that you retain copyright to anything you write, regardless of how you distribute it, unles you specifically release said writing into the public domain. The US and most other countries operate under Berne convention guidelines and some (e.g. US) even go beyond in protecting copyrights.

When you post a FAQ to GameFAQs, you are implicitly giving them permission to publish the page and to allow CNET affiliates to link to the page. If you ever decide to withdraw that permission (by requesting the FAQ be removed), GameFAQs can't just keep hosting it because you "gave it to them once". Nor can any other site take the FAQ and publish it without your express permission.

The only gray area is other sites providing a direct link to your FAQ on GameFAQs, but that's an issue with GameFAQs allowing direct linking and has nothing to do with you. You can't use copyright laws to prevent people from linking to something you have posted. Only from republishing it in another space.
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Kratos_42 | Posted 1/20/2006 9:09:21 PM | message detail
Hey, I got contacted by a www.supercheats.com. Should I allow it to be posted there? The e-mail said it would stay no ad, plain text as is format, with full credit given to me, but I'm not sure. Anyone know anything about these guys.
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PapaGamer | Posted 1/21/2006 12:23:45 AM | message detail
You might want to take a look at the very first post in this topic.
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Kratos_42 | Posted 1/21/2006 1:38:17 AM | message detail
Whoops. I read that twice and didn't see it. I feel worse off. Well, ok, thanks for pointing that out.
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LinuxRocks | Posted 1/21/2006 9:06:23 AM | message detail
*posts*
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Kratos_42 | Posted 2/3/2006 11:43:14 PM | message detail
Sorry to ask again, but this time I'm sure. What about this GamerHelp? I wouldn't ask here, but they offered a $50 bounty for my FAQ so I'm a bit suspicious.
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PeTeRL90 | Posted 2/3/2006 11:46:48 PM | message detail
GamerHelp is a legit site. You just need to manually post your work there.
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Kratos_42 | Posted 2/3/2006 11:57:04 PM | message detail
Thank you very much. I've authorized it being there by registering and submitting it. I'm so happy, I get a bounty. YES!!! And BTW, GamerHelp should be added in the next incarnation of this topic.
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PapaGamer | Posted 2/4/2006 3:30:45 PM | message detail
You might get a bounty. They owe me three, and beyond the initial email asking for my name & address, I've never heard from them. :sigh:
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Travis | Posted 2/6/2006 9:58:31 PM | message detail
Thanks for the info.
Kratos_42 | Posted 2/7/2006 12:01:52 AM | message detail
Well, this is incredibly depressing to hear.
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Ryo 0hki | Posted 2/9/2006 1:29:22 AM | message detail
I've received a few emails requesting my guide to be used elsewhere. Does anyone have a simple yet polite message to say no?

I don't think "No, you can't host it" is right way of saying it...?
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sakurajin | Posted 2/13/2006 11:47:39 PM | message detail
"Thanks for your interest, but my guides are only available at the sites listed in the copyright section of my FAQs".
Ryo 0hki | Posted 2/14/2006 3:54:46 AM | message detail
Ah, thankyou sakurajin :)
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Berserker93 | Posted 2/17/2006 10:21:52 AM | message detail
You might get a bounty. They owe me three, and beyond the initial email asking for my name & address, I've never heard from them. :sigh:

So very true. I'm having the same problem with one of mine. From what I have experienced, the only way to get in touch with them is through their message board. Even the guy that first emailed me doesn't respond anymore.
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peach freak | Posted 2/24/2006 10:25:58 PM | message detail
How about this site? I just recently got an email from them:

http://www.cheatchannel.com
http://www.cheatbook.de

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SilverPhoenix | Posted 2/26/2006 7:42:40 PM | message detail
I've been hesitant to say this, because the owner of the site is trying to do a good thing with it, but he's going about it the wrong way. So: www.wonderdogsoftware.com gets a thumbs-down by my vote. They charge a membership fee to access guides (any profit from which, granted, goes to kids charities), and apparently have no respect for author's "only these sites can host" lists--with one exception, every guide I've written has ended up there without permission, and I know there are other authors around here who've had similar issues with them.
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Drunky | Posted 3/2/2006 2:57:00 AM | message detail
^That site is ugly as sin.

I checked a few of their FAQs, and they have 2-3 sections of text all overlapping making it impossible to read.
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thesims5 | Posted 3/6/2006 11:15:56 PM | message detail
y did you make this.theres people who print out crap and use it on other sites. how do you tell THat is happening?hmm?what did you say?you say you can't know how we do that w/o getting in trouble?YOU'LL NEVER DEFEAT US! my good online freind m@ts0rh@x0r on ps2live can tell you that.
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Reptobismol | Posted 3/11/2006 9:59:50 AM | message detail
Someone mentioned that informing CCC's web provider and sponsors got his work removed from his site; is this true, and was it effective?

I don't know which boils my blood more furiously- the fact that he had the balls to remove every mention of GFAQs (at the same time taking many names off of the credits) and butchering my disclaimer to his site's benefit..

..or the fact that I later found that he's been doing it to a large amount of people for ages and hasn't payed dearly for it. You'd think some enraged author and hacker would have done all they could to ruin his life. =P

I noticed when looking at his site a long while back that he has no photo on the staff page. Gee, I wonder why.

Either way, I can't stand knowing that he's done this to my work and gotten away with it, so any input on successful dealings with that abomination and his hideous site would be great.
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MarsPrincess | Posted 3/12/2006 6:10:35 PM | message detail
This is useful
harryjamespotter | Posted 3/13/2006 4:08:55 PM | message detail
that's strange, topic creator got banned...


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honestgamer | Posted 3/14/2006 6:29:52 AM | message detail
The fact of the matter is that everyone has a different idea about copyright law. Most people who write FAQs just grit their teeth and hope that everyone will treat their intellectual property fairly.

With my site, I say "Forget about the law" and I just try to treat contributors as I like to be treated myself. Whether it's legal to post FAQs without permission or not, I just choose not to do it. That saves me the trouble of worrying about legal trouble and it increases the chances of cool FAQ writers agreeing to post their stuff on my site. Everyone wins.

Really, I don't understand why more sites don't operate like that, except that they want to take the quick and easy road to success. I watch sites like that and I just wait for the rug to fall out from underneath them. Most of those sites aren't in business for more than a year before folding. If you're so lazy when building a site that you rely on stolen content, you'll eventually run into unrelated issues that cause you to just close down your site of your own accord. Keeping a site active and updated year in and year out takes thousands of hours of work, and I mean that literally.

That one site we all know and loathe just happens to be the odd exception to the rule. One day, though... one day... ;-)

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Hayato Kazami | Posted 3/15/2006 5:43:16 AM | message detail
Neoseeker asked me for my first one a year ago. I gave them permission. But my newest FAQ (working on it right now) they didn't ask and still posted on their site. What should I do? Ask for removal?
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honestgamer | Posted 3/15/2006 6:30:25 AM | message detail
Neoseeker usually gets permission to use your FAQs as a whole. They don't ever ask for a single one that I know of. Unless you have some compelling reason, I'd just let them follow that procedure. It's very convenient and they're a great site.

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Hayato Kazami | Posted 3/15/2006 7:27:43 AM | message detail
Okay thanks. I'd rather just stick to GameFAQs then and tell them to only post the permitted ones.

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Devin Morgan | Posted 3/23/2006 7:21:58 PM | message detail
How about 1up.com? Anyone have insight to add on them, since I recently received a request to post all my current/future work there. Thanks.

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strawhat | Posted 3/27/2006 2:11:10 AM | message detail
been positive for me, I let them use my FAQs.
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probester | Posted 3/30/2006 3:48:07 AM | message detail
Ummm, what about Absolut Cheats?
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TripleJumpMB | Posted 3/30/2006 4:13:39 AM | message detail
Sounds like a rundown site when you read the name, so I don't know.

Remember this, you shouldn't be nervous to turn them down. They are at your mercy and you have the right to reject them.
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