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| CJayC | Posted 2/24/2007 7:27:28 PM | message detail |
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Just to follow up for people worried about the FAQ splitting: The option to split up a FAQ will not be on by default, and only intentionally selectable by the user or turned on when a low-memory browser is detected (i.e. one that probably couldn't view the guide in the first place). I imagine that very few people are going to be using that feature, or even know it exists. If you ever get an e-mail from someone who complains that the splitting feature breaks your guide, you can safely assume they're clueless and relegate them to the "lack of common sense" bin in your inbox. --- Once upon a time everything was lovely, but that was before I had to deal with people. |
| Split Infinity | Posted 2/24/2007 9:11:56 PM | message detail |
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I can see nothing broken in this or any negative things. All in all, I think it's a great concept. --- I may not know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future. Je t'aime, Alcestis ~~~{~ < © *empaws* |
| A I e x | Posted 2/24/2007 9:20:30 PM | message detail |
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Agreed. --- Gravity is a harsh mistress.... http://www.last.fm/user/A_I_e_x/ |
| Lu4R | Posted 2/24/2007 9:44:13 PM | message detail |
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The footer seems wrong on the split FAQ. And I guess it might be a good
idea to list numerically the links for each split page so that I don't
have to click 14 times on "Next Page" to get to the 15th page (But I
guess I could easily alter the number at the address bar to get to the
desired page number, since it might be troublesome for FAQs with lots
of pages). Splitting the FAQ considerably benefits people with slow
Internet connections, since they do have a hard time viewing the whole
FAQ. --- "The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us." (Bill Watterson) |
| The_Fallen_User | Posted 2/24/2007 11:02:18 PM | message detail |
| Will the page itself and the Database be synced?
Because how will it know the current version and such? Will it have to
be changed by the admin when they update the guides? --- Lead Mods sink when you throw them in water, regular Mods just float - Whiz Kid |
| King Kool | Posted 2/24/2007 11:41:45 PM | message detail |
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KK, you make it sound like this is some crucial life-or-death situation here. >_> Lately, there's been a lot of website redesigns that are very ugly (Somethingawful and IMDB, for example). But not only are they ugly, they look pretty much the same. It's like all the websites in the world are striving to look alike. I long for the days of simple design, and I think having a link to a text file that's just a text file is part of that. Maybe it's needless nostalgia, but it's the trends over the Internet in general, not so much here, that make me apprehensive. --- No matter what they say, or what threats they make, or wars they start, always, always, always, MAKE 7UP YOURS!! |
| kirbix | Posted 2/24/2007 11:56:11 PM | message detail |
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King Kool is my new semi-hero for having FANTASTIC taste, both in
websites to browse and in hating the new layouts for both. I couldn't
agree more. However, this is hardly an example of that- the change to v10 gameFAQs is much closer to that example, and I was vocalizing my protest then. --- Signatures that consist of quotes are bizarre- you could falsify a quote and no one would know.-Jesus |
| Malcrasternus | Posted 2/25/2007 1:18:24 AM | message detail |
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Pretty good. The idea is sound, and this will only help GameFAQS. I tip my hat to you, my friend. --- Theoretically, the most perfect conversation ever: -Why? -Because. -Because why? -... *Leaves chat-room* |
| MIND FREAK | Posted 2/25/2007 1:56:07 AM | message detail |
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Looks good, nice work. ---  http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/mwutz/Resmarted.jpg |
| GhostOfLegault | Posted 2/25/2007 2:15:46 AM | message detail |
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I'm really likin' this new stuff. --- (¬_¬)/¯ - It's good to go! Cena is Sharptooth and everyone else is Littlefoot's mom. -- glapsafasht |
| brian sulpher | Posted 2/25/2007 2:28:07 AM | message detail |
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Fair enough Ceej, then I can ee no real issues at all then with this upgrade. As for the rest here, anyone else surprised by the lack of invasion by the Ceej stalkers? Or has that passed for the site goers like some fad? --- 72 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com. DIVISION 6: WORD |
| Scottie theNerd | Posted 2/25/2007 2:33:22 AM | message detail |
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Looks clean and neat. I like it; would definitely improve the image of
GameFAQs and make guides look more professional (even though we're not
actually doing anything). I'm still queasy about this "Recommend this FAQ" thing. It helps the community, but it's never been particularly popular on Site Suggestions. I don't want to write a guide and have it blackmarked because some idiot hates Commonwealth English for some reason. Competition isn't a good thing for volunteer contributions. I'm still looking forward to what ideas are in the wind regarding this one. --- The wind will take me home... http://members.optusnet.com.au/scottie_thenerd :: http://scottie-thenerd.deviantart.com |
| brian sulpher | Posted 2/25/2007 2:57:45 AM | message detail |
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You catch grief for that spelling style Scottie? I have never had any
problems from readers regarding that myself and I find it surprising
you would get that (maybe different gaming crowds, I dunno). --- 72 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com. DIVISION 6: WORD |
| LtCmdData | Posted 2/25/2007 3:05:00 AM | message detail |
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anyone else surprised by the lack of invasion by the Ceej stalkers? Rock was really the only such poster who came to these boards Now that he's gone... |
| Kratos_42 | Posted 2/25/2007 3:14:31 AM | message detail |
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Sounds good. --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. |
| The_Fallen_User | Posted 2/25/2007 3:25:54 AM | message detail |
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LIK OMG CJAYC!!! 101010 Okay, happy now? Good.... ^.^ --- Lead Mods sink when you throw them in water, regular Mods just float - Whiz Kid |
| kirbix | Posted 2/25/2007 3:26:50 AM | message detail |
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I've actually seen a "CJAYC SPOTTED!" topic before, clicked the topic
and seen no "OMG CEEJ" posts in the topic even hours after the
"announcement" was made. I think it may just have passed. That, and I think most new users don't even know who Cjay is anymore. --- Signatures that consist of quotes are bizarre- you could falsify a quote and no one would know.-Jesus |
| LtCmdData | Posted 2/25/2007 3:29:01 AM | message detail |
| Seeing something like that on Hacked should be expected. I mean, it's Hacked. |
| PeTeRL90 | Posted 2/25/2007 3:42:12 AM | message detail |
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Is it possible to put in a Print feature in the guide itself? I still don't like the idea of a header and footer, though. --- Game Collection: http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=PeTeRL90&mode=vown |
| lisanne | Posted 2/25/2007 3:44:09 AM | message detail |
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Just a quick question... Would the influx of people arriving direct at
the FAQs from Google, external sites etc, interfere with the way hits
appear? In other words, is it the act of clicking on the file you want
to view that adds on a hit, or is it just turning up on the FAQ page
itself? --- You love it. The user with bite. |
| King Kool | Posted 2/25/2007 4:16:09 AM | message detail |
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However, this is hardly an example of that- the change to v10
gameFAQs is much closer to that example, and I was vocalizing my
protest then. I didn't mind it then because it was the first example I had seen of it. But now, it looks like all these sites are striving for the same thing. I'm used to it now, but the trend seems to be spreading. Most trends that raise alarms in my head don't tend to slow down. --- No matter what they say, or what threats they make, or wars they start, always, always, always, MAKE 7UP YOURS!! |
| Super Slash | Posted 2/25/2007 4:17:59 AM | message detail |
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I used to hate v10, and love v9. I've gotten so accustomed to v10, it's vice versa for me now. --- Current Amount of FAQs: 14 (3066 Total KB) Current KB FAQ Rank: 3K Series Champion |
| Kratos_42 | Posted 2/25/2007 4:30:16 AM | message detail |
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I use v9, and still hate v10. >_> --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. |
| Malcrasternus | Posted 2/25/2007 6:52:08 AM | message detail |
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Heh. I was just about to mention the fact that I posted in a topic that
CJayC(I don't think I earned the right to call him Ceej yet) was in.
Good thing I'm not like the posters who would sacrifice a body part to
talk to user "1." --- You cannot understand why I act like this. Why I help those who ask. Why I will help, and help, and help. Until I die. And I'm not dead, yet... |
| PeTeRL90 | Posted 2/25/2007 6:55:51 AM | message detail |
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What "right"? It's just a nickname. --- Game Collection: http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=PeTeRL90&mode=vown |
| Malcrasternus | Posted 2/25/2007 7:02:09 AM | message detail |
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Well, I doubt he would like to be called "Ceej" from some random poster he most likely never even heard about. --- You cannot understand why I act like this. Why I help those who ask. Why I will help, and help, and help. Until I die. And I'm not dead, yet... |
| christopher99999 | Posted 2/25/2007 8:17:23 AM | message detail |
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I like this idea, although I haven't submitted any guides (working on that :p) I'm in the same boat as you (i.e. haven't submitted any guides just yet), so to speak. I did 2 reviews back in December, but S. Bacon took them down for some reason (he is the one that deals with reviews, right) --- Signed, R. Thorpe. Um, not to criticize anyone's signature or anything, but shouldn't your signature be your name. |
| Scottie theNerd | Posted 2/25/2007 2:30:05 PM | message detail |
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brian sulphur: I haven't caught flak for my spelling style yet. It was just a hypothetical example. --- The wind will take me home... http://members.optusnet.com.au/scottie_thenerd :: http://scottie-thenerd.deviantart.com |
| kirbix | Posted 2/25/2007 5:36:19 PM | message detail |
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Well, I doubt he would like to be called "Ceej" from some random poster he most likely never even heard about. You assume too much; I'm betting that I could count on my hands the number of people in this topic who have EVER really "talked" to Ceej. --- Signatures that consist of quotes are bizarre- you could falsify a quote and no one would know.-Jesus |
| LtCmdData | Posted 2/25/2007 6:36:06 PM | message detail |
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Let's try to stay on topic, guys. How about that files rating to be posted on the header? Maybe even start to rank them by rating instead of alphabetically? Well, I guess that could lead to sabotage and what not...just an idea. |
| bodo_parkour | Posted 2/25/2007 7:13:20 PM | message detail |
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Just a quick question... Would the influx of people arriving direct
at the FAQs from Google, external sites etc, interfere with the way
hits appear? In other words, is it the act of clicking on the file you
want to view that adds on a hit, or is it just turning up on the FAQ
page itself? Well, some sites like Gamewinners can now link directly to the FAQs, and if my hits went up as people from other sites look at my guides, I can have a more specific idea as to how many people on the internet as a whole are looking at my guides. |
| Sephirothson | Posted 2/26/2007 12:17:49 AM | message detail |
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How about that files rating to be posted on the header? Maybe even start to rank them by rating instead of alphabetically? As I mentioned before, I kinda object to this on the grounds that it has the potential to become a vote stuffing contest instead of what a rating system should be. You could set it up so that only registered members with lets say X karma (A low amount, to avoid chain voting on multiple new accounts) could vote on FAQs but then you are denying a sizable portion of the people who visit GameFAQs that right. I guess in the end, it's a thin slab of ice; Perhaps one could open it with free voting for all and if gets abused, make changes and learn from the mistakes. --- Any Argument can be won if you argue correctly. |
| Karpah | Posted 2/26/2007 12:24:50 AM | message detail |
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I like the idea of being able to give other sites access to the guides,
I enver thought of it that way. Like the FAQ sites that are forever
e-mailing people about their FAQs, but people don't want to have to
update their guides at 15 different sites, perhaps those sites could
link to the wrappers instead (in some cases, not all, obviously). --- Tell me that past times wont die, tell me that old lies are alive... o.O Push button to turn on. Play with button to drive wild... |
| Starion | Posted 2/26/2007 12:25:24 AM | message detail |
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Also, I remember the previous rating systems were underutilized. Even
the early version where anyone could vote wasn't really used that much.
--- Finished: FF12, Zelda:TP, SMT: Devil Summoner | Now playing: Rogue Galaxy |
| jelly soup | Posted 2/26/2007 4:44:55 AM | message detail |
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So...will this header also be applied to images? --- "Man, the more you learn, the less you know." - Pascal, AC:WW Super Mario Wiki - www.mariowiki.com |
| ZachGotRepusBak | Posted 2/26/2007 8:56:17 AM | message detail |
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I'll start off by saying this looks great and that I was expecting
something far more intrusive. I still have a couple of questions though: 1. Will there be something on the FAQ/Guides page that says if the guides are wrapped or not? 2. Since people will be able to come to the guides from just about anywhere now, is there a way we could maybe have a list of sites that are linking to our guides? 3. This isn't technically a question, but when I view both of the guides with Firefox the banner at the bottom of the page is the top part of the grey Gamespot box at the bottom of every page:  When I view it in IE though it's fine so I'd assume it's something with my settum, I just though it should be mentioned in case it happens to anyone else. --- (>ò_ó)>---{[=(>x_x)> |
| Sashanan | Posted 2/26/2007 1:36:08 PM | message detail |
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Looking good. If you'd want to accomodate people who wish to be able to click through to the text file without the intermediate "View/Download Original File" step, that could be made an option on the account settings level too. Have an option for contributors to turn it off for their own files, and an option for any user to turn it off for any FAQ they view (assuming, of course, they are logged in at the time). The wrapper shows up only if both options are set to on (with the latter defaulting to on when not logged in). --- And he treated the rats as equals - which was right. (Oklahoma) http://www.mastagus.com/sash/collection/collection.html |
| selmiak | Posted 2/26/2007 4:56:05 PM | message detail |
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nice. so what about a feedback system for the reader? --- I don't care who your dad is! While I'm fishing here nobody walks over the water! -> www.selmiak.de.vu |
| jelly soup | Posted 2/26/2007 9:54:29 PM | message detail |
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2. Since people will be able to come to the guides from just about
anywhere now, is there a way we could maybe have a list of sites that
are linking to our guides? Oh, I like this idea. --- "Man, the more you learn, the less you know." - Pascal, AC:WW Super Mario Wiki - www.mariowiki.com |
| peach freak | Posted 2/27/2007 12:39:19 AM | message detail |
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I like the idea of how page breaking is optional, because as people
have said, it could screw over let's say, an ASCII map or something. Also, would the header be toggled on/off? Just a question, it does look pretty useful. I would also suggest "Print FAQ", but for larger portions, you could highlight the parts you want printed. And if the FAQs are downloadable, you could always have the downloaded FAQ check for updates on GameFAQs upon opening it, but that'd take a nifty amount of coding to so so. --- Buffalo Bills, Boston Red Sox Sports Heroes: Thurman Thomas, Jim Kelly, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz |
| StarFighters76 | Posted 2/27/2007 7:04:18 AM | message detail |
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So...will this header also be applied to images? I don't see why it wouldn't. I also noticed that since the FAQs have page breaks, because some of them are rather large, and it would be easier for 56K users, how would the images be handled? I know when I would get on my brothers computer (he's on 56K), it would take a while for any map to load. --- If it's meant to be, then it's not meant for me. If it's not meant to be, then it's meant for me. |
| dark52 | Posted 2/27/2007 8:11:26 AM | message detail |
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The images are all on a single page (example of one of yours: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gbcolor/file/197769/29666?page=1). --- If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you. http://www.darkspyro.net/ |
| Scottie theNerd | Posted 2/27/2007 11:12:07 AM | message detail |
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"so what about a feedback system for the reader?" Still iffy about that. If I get crap in my email, I'll get more crap through the site. --- The wind will take me home... http://scottie-thenerd.deviantart.com |
| selmiak | Posted 2/27/2007 3:05:37 PM | message detail |
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I only get spam and contributions/constructive criticsm but no
hatemail. Maybe that's why I would like such a system. Perhaps It
should be implemented beta and if massive abuse occurs just be shut
down or be optional by the contributor too. Maybe even optional for
every file. So if you have a completed file and don't want to ar
anything about it, not even thank you for writing this then you turn it
off, if you file is partial complete people can send in additions and
other feedback and thank you letters. --- I don't care who your dad is! While I'm fishing here nobody walks over the water! -> www.selmiak.de.vu |
| llamaman2 | Posted 2/27/2007 11:48:49 PM | message detail |
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I'll even take hatemail at this point. All I get is spam. --- Currently Playing: Excite Truck, Monkey Ball:BB Wake Forest Football 11-3 {End of Season} |
| jelly soup | Posted 2/28/2007 6:00:15 AM | message detail |
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I like the idea of a feedback system. On one hand, it'll cut down on
the number of people who feel the need to sign my e-mail up for spam.
On the other, it limits the amount of people willing to help out to
only GFAQs users. --- "Man, the more you learn, the less you know." - Pascal, AC:WW Super Mario Wiki - www.mariowiki.com |
| Tarrun | Posted 2/28/2007 10:35:44 PM | message detail |
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The header looks perfect; it's small, neat, and fairly inconspicuous -- exactly what I was hoping for. As for the feedback system, I'm kind of against it, but it's really only because I don't want comments to be divided between my email address and then a feedback system. Honestly, I wouldn't mind having it as long as they're kept private and can be deleted from the system. --- When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
| DTran | Posted 3/1/2007 10:15:44 PM | message detail |
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"I'm still queasy about this "Recommend this FAQ" thing. It helps
the community, but it's never been particularly popular on Site
Suggestions. I don't want to write a guide and have it blackmarked
because some idiot hates Commonwealth English for some reason.
Competition isn't a good thing for volunteer contributions. I'm still
looking forward to what ideas are in the wind regarding this one." Why not just have a "Recommend this FAQ" button only. That way, it will give people who truly think a FAQ is extraordinary the option while preventing said abuse. |
| transience | Posted 3/2/2007 7:49:16 AM | message detail |
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looks good to me. I think 50KB is a bit on the small side, but then again I've never tried to browse on a PSP. (or an N-Gage!!!) is it possible to choose the size? I'd personally use a 100 or 200KB one just because my browser struggles with huge text files, but 50KB on a 500K document just isn't worth it. --- xyzzy "Theo is well again." - FFDragon |
| Sashanan | Posted 3/2/2007 9:27:36 AM | message detail |
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Why not just have a "Recommend this FAQ" button only. That way, it
will give people who truly think a FAQ is extraordinary the option
while preventing said abuse. I think they did something similar to this on 1UP.com...articles used to have a "recommend this article yes/no" option on them, whereas now there's just the option to click if you'd recommend it and do nothing if not. It could work. --- You can check out any time you like... http://www.mastagus.com/sash/collection/collection.html |
