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From: Linkgoron | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:41:44 AM | Message Detail
Okay, enough is enough people. If you want to act like whiny, immature kids, take it elsewhere.

The site is going to be this way, period, end of story. If you are so against it and can't stand it anymore, then please, by all means...leave.

I feel sorry for many of you who are whining because it isn't any different in the real world regarding change. If you were to act like this out there, your ass would be out in the streets in no time. You can't make everyone happy but guess what, that's the way it works.

I strongly suggest if you wish to pull contributions or close out your accounts, do so quietly instead of drawing unnecessary attention to yourselves.

Complaining about things is one thing but the constant whining about what's going on achieves nothing.

Oh I'm sorry I have no right to voice my opinion? I've been a user here since 98 and I think I've got a right to voice my opinion.
Yes it is different from the real world. Don't give me that "you don't like change". This isn't like there's any progress here, or any new features. This is just a different layout, and seems like a 640*480 (or whatever) res AND It's ugly (it also causes eye pain). The older one was much better. Just a simple, easy to use and good looking board.
I think that the fact that you're getting so much negative feedback is because the layout sucks. and basically makes us GS2 (look at the color and the LOGO)
So instead of telling us that "You have to live with it", you can change it back, because that's what the users want (all of the negative feedback...), and this site is supposed to please the users... Just look at the users that post that this is just a late April's Fools joke...

There's a reason we're here and not in GS or other boards. It's because we find these boards better and funner than any other EZboards and all those kinds of boards... If you can't accept criticism, then I hope you grow up. This board is just a step away from avatars and pics in sigs and all that... What'll make this board any different? Nothing!

I won't talk about the other stuff because they're just insulting to users (paying for an adless site for e.g.), and are basically exactly the opposite to everything Cjay said in the past. (look at my sig, for one thing)


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GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.
From: Dark Vortex | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:42:11 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but in the end, what impact can a group of users honestly have on GameFAQs?

There's really no point in trying to change things from becoming what they will inevitably become. The best thing to do at this point would simply be to shrug it off and let things take their toll, for better or for worse.
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From: kirbix | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:42:51 AM | Message Detail
To darkphoenix87:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=11&topic=27512013

Daily Grind. Add it to your favorites list; it's as useful as MBA.
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From: megtron | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:43:12 AM | Message Detail
This is a horrendous idea. How could a merger between GS and GF ever produce anything good? And the new layout is as destructive to our eyes as the one from last year.

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From: StarFighters76 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:43:41 AM | Message Detail
Guys, prolific contributors (20 completed FAQs+) gets the premium service.
Also, you guys keep thinking it's your own FAQs that supported the growth of gfaqs. It's not just that, I'm not sure if you guys know, your faqs are also "sold" to AOL access so your contributions also affect Cnet and AOL's business and so forth.


You'd think AOL would give us a free account >_>
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From: LtCmdData | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:44:34 AM | Message Detail
Guys, prolific contributors (20 completed FAQs+) gets the premium service.
Also, you guys keep thinking it's your own FAQs that supported the growth of gfaqs. It's not just that, I'm not sure if you guys know, your faqs are also "sold" to AOL access so your contributions also affect Cnet and AOL's business and so forth.


You'd think AOL would give us a free account >_>




God I hope not.
From: blue dragon7 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:45:24 AM | Message Detail
>_>
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From: Smackdowner1 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:45:36 AM | Message Detail
*wonders if two FAQs, one review and one code is prolific enough.*

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From: Xboxlover2 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:45:37 AM | Message Detail
XD, adaml, I now love you for that random DJ Tigresa comment.

*agrees 100% with adaml*

Besides, the new layout isn't THAT bad...I actually like it better than version 9.
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From: megtron | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:46:25 AM | Message Detail
The merger has indeed ruined this site, since people are hacing to change their posting habits completely, jsut to accomodate children from Gamespot. The social boards are unrecognizable from how they were just a scant 3 years ago. Where has all the fun gone? Where have all the good posters gone? But hey who cares when large wads of cash are flashed in our faces?

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From: dogboy | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:46:42 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and I just got a pop-up from Gamespot.

Touche'
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From: kirby dude | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:47:28 AM | Message Detail
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From: StarFighters76 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:47:36 AM | Message Detail
God I hope not.

I dunno, I liked AOL when I was using it around my Webtv days (I used a friends computer as well to get on AOL).
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From: kirbix | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:47:37 AM | Message Detail
Don't you mean "touché"?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:48:12 AM | Message Detail
Purely cosmetic or not, that Gamespot logo doesn't belong there.

I dare someone to give a black man in Harlem a Confederate flag and say that said historical event was purely cosmetic.

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From: dogboy | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:48:27 AM | Message Detail
Well, same difference I suppose.
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From: Xboxlover2 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:49:25 AM | Message Detail
It's not as if Ceej said "Hey, here's some money, let me be a sellout"...he was struggling to keep the site going. Would you rather that he didn't sell the site to CNet? GF would've lasted for like one more year, two years tops, before it would've been too much to handle, resulting in its closing. I'm glad that CNet bought GameFAQs, because without CNet, GameFAQs would've definitely been forced to shut down.
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From: megtron | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:50:13 AM | Message Detail
Okay, enough is enough people. If you want to act like whiny, immature kids, take it elsewhere.

The site is going to be this way, period, end of story. If you are so against it and can't stand it anymore, then please, by all means...leave.

I feel sorry for many of you who are whining because it isn't any different in the real world regarding change. If you were to act like this out there, your ass would be out in the streets in no time. You can't make everyone happy but guess what, that's the way it works.

I strongly suggest if you wish to pull contributions or close out your accounts, do so quietly instead of drawing unnecessary attention to yourselves.

Complaining about things is one thing but the constant whining about what's going on achieves nothing.



I said it before and say it again, apathy will be the death of this world. If you expect to change something then you msut work towards that change. Things will not magically change themselves.

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From: kirbix | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:50:33 AM | Message Detail
So instead of shutting down this year, it will dwindle off to nearly nothing more than another game site within the next year.

Eh, small difference to me.
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From: AnubisZeroOne | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:50:49 AM | Message Detail
Xboxlover2: I would seriously rather have the site shut down as it slowly became too much to handle than see it become what it's becoming.

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From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.
From: dogboy | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:50:53 AM | Message Detail
CJayC is does not have to be under CNeT's control. He still has most decision over the site and could've got things running smoothly easily.
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GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC, June 3rd
From: Mensco | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:51:02 AM | Message Detail
From: Xboxlover2 | Posted: 4/11/2006 5:49:25 PM | Message Detail
It's not as if Ceej said "Hey, here's some money, let me be a sellout"...he was struggling to keep the site going. Would you rather that he didn't sell the site to CNet? GF would've lasted for like one more year, two years tops, before it would've been too much to handle, resulting in its closing. I'm glad that CNet bought GameFAQs, because without CNet, GameFAQs would've definitely been forced to shut down.


I was thinking he should have tried implementing paypal but okay whatever.
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From: LtCmdData | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:52:17 AM | Message Detail
Purely cosmetic or not, that Gamespot logo doesn't belong there.

I dare someone to give a black man in Harlem a Confederate flag and say that said historical event was purely cosmetic.

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Go figure.
From: Yoda Man | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:53:39 AM | Message Detail
You come for the simplicity and what happens? Ads up the wazoo. While it still isn't as bad as say IGN, Gamefaqs is losing it, I mean this brand new redesign SUCKS. It's even worst then the previous one.
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From: Smackdowner1 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:54:03 AM | Message Detail
Personally, I would have liked to have seen GameFAQs stick with IGN.

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From: Yoda Man | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:55:04 AM | Message Detail
OH and this site is losing everything that made it UNIQUE. Now it's like Gamespot part 2.
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From: Morph | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:56:06 AM | Message Detail
This is my take on the "comped" idea -- visit >
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=27514004

War Doc, this real world isn't how it's supposed to be. We are a group of freelance writers writing for free, but controlled by the corporation seeking to profit off of our free work.

I'm not mad at the GAMESPOT logo on top of GameFAQs, I'm mad because the content I wrote will be harder to get to due to the ads. This is not what I signed up for. Sure, the contents will still be "free," but how much "navigations" will our readers have to get through in order to reach the content one day? You say it won't happen, but they have already crept the line we drew years ago. Eventually, they'll make it so painful to navigate that readers will want to sign up to premium in order to read our free works.

Think, will we have to write a FAQ on how to find FAQs on GameFAQs one day? You laughin now, but look at what Jr wrote pages ago -- he just wrote a mini-FAQ on how to bypass ads!
From: StarFighters76 | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:56:08 AM | Message Detail
It's not as if Ceej said "Hey, here's some money, let me be a sellout"...he was struggling to keep the site going. Would you rather that he didn't sell the site to CNet? GF would've lasted for like one more year, two years tops, before it would've been too much to handle, resulting in its closing. I'm glad that CNet bought GameFAQs, because without CNet, GameFAQs would've definitely been forced to shut down.

Okay I can see that. But what is the excuse for premium services then? None. CNET buying GF so it can stay afloat, I can see that, but that's it. Anything more is just them wanting more money for no other reason than just to have it. Do we need to look like GS, hell no! Do we need GS logo ontop of GF logo (which IMO is an insult to GF altogether, not so much because it's GS, but because their logo is ontop of GF's logo), hell ****ing no! So what excuse is there for this happening? It's money, and probably money they don't need.

Still I am curious as to who's idea it was for the premium service and why.

Actually, the ads I could kinda see. Think about it, if we pay to have them blocked, then that means they could use our payments to pay the ads. If not, then they have to use money out of their pockets to pay for them.
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From: FluffyFool | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:56:31 AM | Message Detail
You know if all you parasites hadn't blocked the old unobtrusive ads the site may have been more financially viable.
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From: Clock Spider X | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:57:25 AM | Message Detail
Why are you ruining this site? This place started out as a cool place where we could share videogame information, chat about nothing, and post ASCII art of an Italian plumber riding on a dinosaur. Now it is a money hungry company that caters to its parent company's needs. There is no substance left here. I'd rather just figure out video games for myself and draw my own dinosaur pictures than come here for much longer.

- The one, the only, always defiant Clock Spider / Ubenlocher / Pink Zeppelin / a myriad of other usernames
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From: megtron | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:57:45 AM | Message Detail
Indeed. This site will no longer have any meaning in a few months. Sad, really.

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From: adaml | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:59:39 AM | Message Detail
Linkgoron, friend, things in life change all the time. Johnny Damon said he would never play for the Yankees. He's now clean shaven and is probably looking into legally changing his name to Judas.

People have a right to change their mind.

As for the "soul of the site", wouldn't you say the soul are the contributors themselves? I know whenever I contribute anything to this site, I am doing so knowing full well that it is being displayed on somebody else's website. I know FULL WELL that any day this person could decide to pull the plug on HIS website. If this site were to disappear tomorrow, I would be extremely upset, as I have logged a lot of time here, but reality would dictate migrating somewhere else. People will simply look elsewhere to fill their gamefaqs void. We are like cockroaches in that aspect, except cockroaches don't actually write FAQs.

Seriously Link, take down all your contributions if you feel this burned by CJayC. Oh wait...forget it.


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From: DarkPhoenix87 | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:00:40 AM | Message Detail
It's not as if Ceej said "Hey, here's some money, let me be a sellout"...he was struggling to keep the site going. Would you rather that he didn't sell the site to CNet? GF would've lasted for like one more year, two years tops, before it would've been too much to handle, resulting in its closing. I'm glad that CNet bought GameFAQs, because without CNet, GameFAQs would've definitely been forced to shut down.

Bull****. He could've just started accepting donations, or gotten a co-admin or five to help him with the workload. GameFAQs didn't need C|Net.
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From: AnubisZeroOne | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:01:25 AM | Message Detail
Linkgoron, friend, things in life change all the time. Johnny Damon said he would never play for the Yankees. He's now clean shaven and is probably looking into legally changing his name to Judas.

That's a nice example, since you're referring to another person who was bought out with money.
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From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:01:55 AM | Message Detail
Like moths to a flame, here come all the people with no contributor pages flooding the topic to whine.

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From: FluffyFool | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:01:58 AM | Message Detail
As I've said many times has anyone ever seen any kind of balance sheet or profit and loss report for this site? I'd be curious to see the numbers.
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From: Nintenfreak | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:02:07 AM | Message Detail
Jeff, I'm sorry. I've been here for nearly four years, and I decided I should say something. I have a lot of respect for you. You've built the site from the ground up. The last thing I want to see is you laying the site to eternal waste.

The best thing about GameFAQs of yore was the uniqueness. Unlike most sites, GameFAQs had a distinct layout and distinct feel. Now it feels like everything else. I've seen ezboards with better layouts (in itself a rarity).

GameFAQs 2006 reminds me of TV.com. Remember that site? Used to be TVTome. Then CNet interfered, and dramatically increased the attendance at epguides.
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From: carnifex | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:03:24 AM | Message Detail
From: Clock Spider X | Posted: 4/12/2006 12:57:25 AM | Message Detail
Why are you ruining this site? This place started out as a cool place where we could share videogame information, chat about nothing, and post ASCII art of an Italian plumber riding on a dinosaur. Now it is a money hungry company that caters to its parent company's needs. There is no substance left here. I'd rather just figure out video games for myself and draw my own dinosaur pictures than come here for much longer.


Hear hear.
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From: marioandli | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:04:14 AM | Message Detail
*stares at the new gamefaqs*...Cjay does know about the glitch in this system that allows us to view the boards classic style doesn't he?
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From: Insane Shadow | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:04:25 AM | Message Detail
Would you rather that he didn't sell the site to CNet?

Yes. Principle before passion, sir.
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From: War Doc | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:04:40 AM | Message Detail
Those who have constructive criticism is one thing but those who complain and whine are quite another.

Starfighters: No, that wasn't uncalled for at all. As a matter of fact, it needed to be said because the sooner people realize that things change, the sooner they can learn to adapt instead of being all whiny about it (not directed at you).

For everyone else, as I stated before, get used to change. Life is full of paradigm shifts and those who either can't keep up or don't want to keep up get left behind and fail to adapt. GameFAQ's is just a small part of life. Change will continue to happen.

You know, what would people have done if CNET didn't step in to help CJayC. He was getting burned out running the site by himself. He could have pulled the plug and that would have been it. Everyone would have had to go somewhere else.

In the great timeline of internet sites, this one has been up significantly longer then most sites that specialize in some thing. Be happy it exists instead of complaining about every little old thing that changes. Better yet, provide solutions to problems instead of being a part of the problem yourself.

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From: Smackdowner1 | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:06:13 AM | Message Detail
I'd say the GameFAQs boards are now more like GameSpot Lite, rather than GameSpot 2.

Think about it.

It's almost exactly like GameSpot's side, except without the avatars and signature banners, and a lighter style. Hopefully, we'll never see those images on GameFAQs.

I really don't mind the new layout too much. I've already gotten accustomed to this look but like a lot of others, I prefer the old 2001 site design the best.


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From: Xboxlover2 | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:07:44 AM | Message Detail
I really don't mind the new layout too much. I've already gotten accustomed to this look but like a lot of others, I prefer the old 2001 site design the best.

Same, but meh, what can you do?
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From: StarFighters76 | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:07:46 AM | Message Detail
For everyone else, as I stated before, get used to change. Life is full of paradigm shifts and those who either can't keep up or don't want to keep up get left behind and fail to adapt. GameFAQ's is just a small part of life. Change will continue to happen.


It's not just a change, it's a big change that not alot of people are ready to accept instantly. If you want people to accept the change, give it some time. Afterall this was just sprung on them within about the last 24 hours.
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From: Gemerl | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:08:41 AM | Message Detail
Adam, that was a sudden bash XD.

Anyways, I appreciate the sentiment Cjay.

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From: War Doc | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:09:13 AM | Message Detail
This is true, it was sprung on them. So instead of going off half-cocked about pulling contributions or threatening account suicide, give it time to settle in before going off about it.

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From: kirbix | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:09:57 AM | Message Detail
I keep reading all of these "CJAY IS HORRIBLE! DAMN YOU!" posts, and it makes me feel bad for the man...

CJay's not a sellout, nor is he some moneygrubbing person. As MANY have said (Jeff himself), this wasn't his call. CNET didn't give him much choice- read the newest Daily Grind. If that doesn't shut you up, then War Doc is absolutely right- you're needlessly complaining.

I'm quite pacified by the new Daily Grind article, and my personal suggestion is to start sending CNET some stuff. Write letters, send emails, do whatever you can to get the message across that you're unhappy.

Join the business world sometime; CNET owns GameFAQs, and we have to comply with what they say, and they say the site needs this new layout. So, tell THEM you're unhappy instead.

I just wish that there was an easy way to make this known to the rest of the site, because 10,000 people sending letters might make a point.
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From: MyStIk_MaUrIcE | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:10:47 AM | Message Detail
If he'd just shut down the boards completely, he could stop selling out.

At least the social boards. Game boards are useful at times, but why ruin GameFAQs when you can just kill these boards and save the part of the site is actually important?
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From: make me dance | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:11:48 AM | Message Detail
Wasn't the reasoning behind not giving karma for contributions that giving karma for FAQs and reviews only encourages users to submit many low-quality contributions? Why doesn't this apply to "premium" services?
From: Xboxlover2 | Posted: 4/12/2006 1:12:20 AM | Message Detail
And if he did that, people would be *****ing about not having social boards. After all, people hate change, as witnessed by this new layout.
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