Well, as I have said on other boards, I'm gonna continue contributing no matter what. It's only when the paying for stuff part comes into play that I will decide on what to do. Until then, just wait till that bridge gets here to cross.
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I second StarFights76: even after it (may) turn to trash, GameFAQs is still very much one of the biggest FAQ compendiums on the site. Much of the gamer population looking for help will come here, and it is this site that gets the biggest number of page views. It is here that we can help the most. Just because the site might lessen in quality over time is not a good reason to pull work; only when it comes an inch away from selling the stuff we put sweat and toil in will I consider pulling something.

Yep, only when FAQs get ads will I start properly questioning.
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CJay, thanks. This is a great way for you to show you're listening to complaints.


It's appreciated.

Well, as I have said on other boards, I'm gonna continue contributing no matter what. It's only when the paying for stuff part comes into play that I will decide on what to do. Until then, just wait till that bridge gets here to cross.




Well said, Mike.

Blarg...

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CJay, thanks. This is a great way for you to show you're listening to complaints.

Please tell me that was sarcasm.
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From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.

I am not leaving because of the ads. I am leaving because you, the site admin himself, lied to us.

In turn, the users turned more against you, your policy, and what you stood for for the users.

Even the mods have gotten stricter. For every "what a dumb GFAQs moderation I got" topic on another forum, there is a serious message, or something other more important going on somewhere else.

CJayC, please, listen to me.

Around a few years ago, when GameFAQs was using it's now-known "classic" design, alot of users came here to talk and discuss their games, life, and have a fun time. Now look at it. You see topics like "zomg sonik and taylz r in souper smas brosers melay". This is just a small part, but encouragement on the users helps too.

The new design? I hate it. But if you compare it to the others, why change it? The topics are to spread apart, and it even hurts my eyes.

Also, many users are proclaming that you are a sell-out. And I cannot blame them for that. You seem to be catering to CNeT's and Gamespot's will.

You're morphing this site CJayC. If you don't stop, this is just going to be like any other ezboard forum. Cheap, trolling, untelligent posts, and everything it wasn't ment to be.

I came here to AVOID, the gigantic images, smilies, avatars, and all those other forum gimicks.

Ask me something CJayC, what's more important to you? Business, or a catering fan base who will more be willing to help you if you listened to them. It would also help to ask us about changes before doing them.

And if this message gets modded, it only proves my point more.

Good day to you.
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GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC, June 3rd

Okay, enough is enough people. If you want to act like whiny, immature kids, take it elsewhere.

The site is going to be this way, period, end of story. If you are so against it and can't stand it anymore, then please, by all means...leave.

I feel sorry for many of you who are whining because it isn't any different in the real world regarding change. If you were to act like this out there, your ass would be out in the streets in no time. You can't make everyone happy but guess what, that's the way it works.

I strongly suggest if you wish to pull contributions or close out your accounts, do so quietly instead of drawing unnecessary attention to yourselves.

Complaining about things is one thing but the constant whining about what's going on achieves nothing.
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I miss the good 'ole days :(
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:D only 20 more complete files to go. :P or 2000K file size.
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I like the whole "ad-less" thing, but now there is this ugly white space to the left of the message boards. It seems way too empty. Honestly though, I never minded the ads... unless you're talking about those gigantic pop-up animations (that I could never seem to close) of course.
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I love reading comments by people who are so opposed to even the slightest bit of change. Deal with it. I've been here since the beginning, probably spending thousands of hours either browsing the site, using the FAQs, writing FAQs for the site, finding codes to post on this site and posting on the messageboards. I guess you could say I've put in my time here. And you know what, I could care less if CJayC wants to change the site layout. I've contributed A LOT to this site and if CJayC wants to mess around a bit with HIS site, who am I to object?

And even if I didn't like it, what the hell good does it do to threaten not to come back to the site. Good riddance to you if you are going to be that critical. If you don't like how the site "looks", then the problem is yours. All the content is the same. All the messageboards are the same. DJ Tigresa is still banned. Everything you have come to love about gamefaqs is still present, except it got a facelift.

And what is the big deal about ads?? There aren't too many sites left out there that are ad-free. Does it really bother you THAT MUCH to have an ad take up 5-10% of the screen?? Scroll down past the damned thing. For those of you complaining about the ads, how many of you are sending $$$ to help pay for the site? Let's see some hands out there. That's what I thought.

Is the layout change really that much of an event in some of your lives to warrant such an uproar???


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I am not leaving because of the ads. I am leaving because you, the site admin himself, lied to us.

In turn, the users turned more against you, your policy, and what you stood for for the users.

Even the mods have gotten stricter. For every "what a dumb GFAQs moderation I got" topic on another forum, there is a serious message, or something other more important going on somewhere else.

CJayC, please, listen to me.

Around a few years ago, when GameFAQs was using it's now-known "classic" design, alot of users came here to talk and discuss their games, life, and have a fun time. Now look at it. You see topics like "zomg sonik and taylz r in souper smas brosers melay". This is just a small part, but encouragement on the users helps too.

The new design? I hate it. But if you compare it to the others, why change it? The topics are to spread apart, and it even hurts my eyes.

Also, many users are proclaming that you are a sell-out. And I cannot blame them for that. You seem to be catering to CNeT's and Gamespot's will.

You're morphing this site CJayC. If you don't stop, this is just going to be like any other ezboard forum. Cheap, trolling, untelligent posts, and everything it wasn't ment to be.

I came here to AVOID, the gigantic images, smilies, avatars, and all those other forum gimicks.

Ask me something CJayC, what's more important to you? Business, or a catering fan base who will more be willing to help you if you listened to them. It would also help to ask us about changes before doing them.

And if this message gets modded, it only proves my point more.

Good day to you

<3
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From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.

This certainly explains why my new design looks pretty awesome. It was a shock at first, but it looks very professional (especially the contributor pages.... holy hell). When mixed with GameFOX, it's downright awesome.

Though I actually liked the 2004 redesign in time, until it gave me migraines. I know you want us to be patient and all that, but you said back in 2004 that we'd see user-submitted css and such and to be patient. Here we are two years later, and we're all hearing the same thing again.

I'll believe it when I see it, and a css that does nothing more than change the white background to something darker is about all I ask. I wasn't kidding when I said that the previous layout gave me migraines.

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Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 2, FF4A, Deus Ex, C&C

*Seconds adaml*

*Also seconds War Doc's notion that if you have nothing useful to say, you have no reason to be on this board*

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The premium service idea isn't a bad thing, though I'm not usually one to pay for premium services. It won't even take till 2007 for me to become prolific, though.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/
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Firefox is an Internet fad. The only Internet fad I partake in is Snakes on a Plane - MutedPolitician Ð

War doc, think for a moment.

There is a high chance this website will stay the same, but at least we're trying to protect something that was fun for us.

This is called sticking up for what you think it's right. Internet or right, it holds true to anything and we will do what we can for who we are.
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GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC, June 3rd

*Also seconds War Doc's notion that if you have nothing useful to say, you have no reason to be on this board*

We want our complaints to be heard, since hardly anything that has been done so far suggests that they are. I know it just happened, but seriously... there was very little notice and that isn't our fault.
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From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site.

I like the whole "ad-less" thing, but now there is this ugly white space to the left of the message boards.

I have no blank spot. Maybe it's an error?

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Admittedly, I didn't bother looking at the contributor pages until now. While the new layout still irks me, it's a lot better than it could have been (2004 layout...), and still retains traditional colors (though I wish they did not change the logo).

AnubisZeroOne - It was more directed for the people that are popping up just to say "CEEJUS HAVE MY BABIES" and other such crap. Not the actual constructive criticism/suggestions. :D

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Yeah, I definitely like how the FAQ pages look now.

And if it means anything, I meant the blank space on the "right" side, not left. My direction is not so great. >.>
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Great post, adaml. And the random 'DJ Tigresa is still banned' comment made me laugh.
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The site is going to be this way, period, end of story. If you are so against it and can't stand it anymore, then please, by all means...leave.

The only complaint I've ever had is that Ceej is too busy. He'll promise to do something with every intention of acting on it, but his list of stuff is so damn long. We were told two years ago that we'd see user-submitted css and all that. The latest Daily Grind topic isn't exactly telling us users anything we haven't heard before, and I'm hoping it doesn't take long to get that ball rolling. I'd love for a badass little black/red redesign to v10.

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Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 2, FF4A, Deus Ex, C&C

this is contributor bribery! I'm sure my five or six or whatever FAQs aren't enough, and I'm not gonna write a ginormous 1 meg FAQ just to make up for it.

despite this fault though, it's a cool idea. I see no problem with premium service so long as access to FAQs isn't part of it, and I can't imagine that would ever happen.
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hey guyz plz dont take your stuff down i'll give u no ads hax :)

I still want a classic view, I remember you saying you'd make one/fix the new classic view thing...
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Nothing travels faster than light, with the possible exception of bad news, which follows its own rules

So is every contributor getting to go ad-free? Because it would seem to me that if you're making money off of other people's work then they should at least be spared being asked to view ads.

Is there going to be some sort of system where people have contributed under a certain amount will see fewer ads than someone who has contributed a lot and won't see any ads?

I'm really happy I've never contributed.
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Okay, enough is enough people. If you want to act like whiny, immature kids, take it elsewhere.

That was really uncalled for. Sure you may be tired of the rants, that's fine. But people who actually do contribute has every right to have their say if they want, even if it may be complaints. Afterall it's been said, our FAQs are what help made this site what it is, and if some people don't like the direction things are heading, mostly if it involves the FAQs they worked on, then let them voice their opinions. Be glad it's only that and not "OMG ITS A CEEJ TOPIC, MUST POST IN LEGENDARY TOPIC!"
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Life is full of irritations, and I'm just one of them. Get use to it and move on.

this is contributor bribery! I'm sure my five or six or whatever FAQs aren't enough, and I'm not gonna write a ginormous 1 meg FAQ just to make up for it.


You shouldn't be writing for what GameFAQs will give you anyway.

Complaining about ads is stupid, and that's all there is to it.

However, I will be supremely disappointed if we remove the ability for the gamers to use different looks, as was said.
The part that I loved about GameFAQs was that it looked nothing like any other gaming board. Hell, the forum we use was 100% different from anything else I'd ever used.

As we continue to conform, this site loses what makes it special. Why should anyone come here anymore if the FAQs are popping up elsewhere (and they certainly are)? This site becomes just another random gaming site.

I'm with Ultima on this one- Cjay had better make DAMN sure that he gives us user-designed CSS sheets. That way we can keep classic, or keep v.9, or create our own "STAR TREK!" version if we so choose.

It's the fact that we're turning into GameSpot that sickens me; before long we're not going to have anything that other sites couldn't have.
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That was really uncalled for

War Doc tends to do that...
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I don't think whining about ads is stupid. Some people just don't appreciate contributing to a site that...

Well. You can all see what's happened.

I also agree that there need to be custom layouts. Now, I personally don't mind the new design. I don't mind the ads, either. I just know that the way I feel isn't the way others feel.

And it's probably not wise to tick off the people who come to this site... who are the people who MADE this site.
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Way to prove yourself with a bunch of asterisks, kunae.
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Also, I second every poster who has mentioned how their main dislike isn't the ads or the premium accounts, it's the slow degradation of the site. Soon it will be just like every other silly game forum, it will lose the simplistic, easy on the eyes awesomeness that it first had.
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Nothing travels faster than light, with the possible exception of bad news, which follows its own rules

The only complaint I've ever had is that Ceej is too busy. He'll promise to do something with every intention of acting on it, but his list of stuff is so damn long. We were told two years ago that we'd see user-submitted css and all that. The latest Daily Grind topic isn't exactly telling us users anything we haven't heard before, and I'm hoping it doesn't take long to get that ball rolling. I'd love for a badass little black/red redesign to v10.

Such is life. I've been telling my wife for 3 years that I'm going to paint the kitchen. It ain't done yet.

I realize it is impossible to please everyone and I am not taking potshots at the contributors who are voicing their opinions, as I know some people are a whole lot more idealistic and protective of their rights than I am, but please, if you feel so let down by these so-called broken promises and/or what you feel are lies, then by all means demand your money back.

This is a gaming website, for the sake of Pete. I'm having a hard time understanding the bitterness here.


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Such is life. I've been telling my wife for 3 years that I'm going to paint the kitchen. It ain't done yet.

Then you're lazy. Get off your butt and go paint >_>

This is a gaming website, for the sake of Pete. I'm having a hard time understanding the bitterness here.

If that was directed at me, I'm not being bitter at all.

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This is a gaming website, for the sake of Pete. I'm having a hard time understanding the bitterness here.

Some people are thinking ahead and fearing the inebidal (or however the **** it's spelled). I admit I am too, and I've voiced my concerned already. I'm just gonna have to put my trust in CJayC on this and see what happens and continue on with this site until then.
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Life is full of irritations, and I'm just one of them. Get use to it and move on.

Guys, prolific contributors (20 completed FAQs+) gets the premium service.
Also, you guys keep thinking it's your own FAQs that supported the growth of gfaqs. It's not just that, I'm not sure if you guys know, your faqs are also "sold" to AOL access so your contributions also affect Cnet and AOL's business and so forth.

I'm just here to remind you guys that you guys are not just the vital sign for gfaqs, but gspot and AOL as well.

Adaml, people are voicing their concerns because gfaqs is built on the free faqs of others. For me, I kind of feel jipped for the other guys since Cnet is profiting because of the traffic created by their faqs.

I'm just bitter because Cjay said Gspot and gfaqs would remain seperate entities but it's getting closer and closer.
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If practice makes perfect, and nobody's perfect. What's the point of practicing?

>_> The only problem with putting trust in CjayC to make it right is that Cjay's more of a businessman than he used to be.

We've given him our trust for several years now, and it's not coming through.

I personally don't care enough to attack the man, but I can understand why the more passionate may feel the need to. I don't agree with it, but I can sympathize.
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CJayC, this is a poor incentive for many reasons:

• I've had an ad-free GameFAQs for about two years thanks to a Firefox extension called Adblock. Anybody with Firefox doesn't need to contribute to GF to have it be ad-free.
• There really shouldn't be ads on this site in the first place. This is one of the fastest loading sites I visit, and its speed is one of the reasons I visit it rather than other gaming sites (though recently I've branched out, and most of my time is spent at LL). With my 56K modem, having ads would slow this site down considerably.
• Why should you have to give people incentive to stay after a redesign? Redesigns should be better and exciting. Do you think that you're giving us a design that would turn people away? If so, you might want to rethink it.

All that I ask is to not be modded for this post. I know that GameFAQs has strict rules, but telling the site's creator what I think shouldn't cause me to lose karma. This is the users' site as much is it is CJayC's, because without users GameFAQs would be nothing.

And may I ask something else without being modded?

What the hell is that giant Gamespot logo doing above the GameFAQs logo on the front page? I come here for the FAQs, not for Gamespot's take-an-hour-to-load-one-page bullcrap. I mentioned before that there were sites I chose not to visit in place of GameFAQs. Gamespot was one of them. I can guarantee you that if this site starts taking even 10% longer to load because of the redesign, I'm gone.

Anything else I didn't say was covered by dogboy's post (4/11/2006 4:05:19 PM).
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It's not just a gaming website. It's a business. The people who work for the business are getting a little sick of being kicked around and being expected to PAY to use the business they contribute to.

(sidenote: what the hell are the premium features and why are people so wound up about them?)

Since I haven't written any FAQs, I can only empathise. Like I've said, I personally don't care. I stopped coming here on a regular basis the first time the site started going to hell.

But although I'm not pissed off myself, I can understand why other people are. They're not whiners.
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