I was looking around to make a myspace thingie, and i decided to surf around the forums...

(Disclaimer: I'm there because of a girl)

Ok, so due to the over-abundance of pity-seeking threads about "I'm an nice guy why can't i get a gf?" or "Why do nice guys finish last" or my personal favorite...."Nice guy looking for a date." So, for all of you nice guys seeking pity and attention from the kind people of this board, i give you the following:

You are a nice guy but you can't get a girlfriend because either:

- you are ugly.....and that's never gonna change, so whining about how you can't get a date will only get you female attention to the equivelant of a girl trying to help a puppy that got run over by a car. They will help you and offer you words of encouragement and wisdom, but in the end you are ugly and they won't **** you.....so get over it.

- you have no self-worth.......if your coming onto these boards begging for attention in the form of acting like a wounded animal, you clearly have no nutsack and should seriously re-consider whether or not your life holds any value.......as for the rest of us...we have already made up our minds.

-you are shy......well you only life once so get off ur ass and change it or be lonely. Guys that whine about being shy are like guys who whine about being fat.....it does you no good because first off no one cares, and secondly its something you can change.........so grow some nuts or be lonely, but the reality is none of the rest of us really care.

-you are heartbroken........Grieving after a long relationship ends is understandable, but clinging to the memories and constantly discussing it is pathetic. There is a special thread in the break-ups section for whining about having loved and lost......so do it there.

-you dont capitalize on opportunities...............Most "nice" guys that end up as the doomed "friend" had a chance at more from the start, but didn't take advantage of the opportunity. If a girl just wants to be ur friend, then either be happy with that or ditch her ***, but don't whine to us about how ur in love with ur friend who doesn't love you back.

-your a whiner........you complain about life and how u try so hard and get no where, ur mommy didn't breast feed you as a baby, ur dad didn't love you enough, you get bad grades because your teacher doesn't like you....etc. If there is anything in this world people hate more than people that do and say stupid ****, its people that do and say stupid **** with a supposed "excuse". Reality check: No one gives a **** about you and your problems, because everyone has their own, so either suck it up and live life or make out with a Smith and Wesson....honestly no one cares.

If you feel you are having problems with girls for any other reasons than these go ahead and ask us about it, but strongly consider whether or not we are really even going to care before hand.

Rant ended.

Any comments?
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Saying you can change being shy is like saying you can change a phobia. It's technically possible, but it is very difficult.

The only way to stop a phobia is GENTLE exposure to the thing you're afraid of, and eventually, you'll get better. I'm not as bad with blood or needles as I used to be, and I am trying the same with talking to female friends (especially since I don't entertain any real romantic aspirations with any of the ones I have difficulty talking to).
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For some reason I expected a mockery.
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KKK, you fear needles? Seriously? Oh dear god.
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Belonephobia is what separates men from boys.

And of course, anemics and hemophiliacs from people who don't have an excuse for not donating blood/plasma.
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KKK, you fear needles? Seriously? Oh dear god.


So do I...
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KKK, you fear needles? Seriously? Oh dear god.

It's only two K's, thank you very much. And what's the big deal? What's with the "oh dear god" all of a sudden?

Belonephobia is what separates men from boys. And of course, anemics and hemophiliacs from people who don't have an excuse for not donating blood/plasma.

That is elitist bullcrap. I'm sure you have at least ONE phobia. I happen to have more than a few. Are you afraid of speaking in front of a crowd? Afraid of bugs? Afraid of the darK?

If you say 'you're not afraid of anything,' then you fear fear itself, and you fear people knowing your fear.

Phobias are IRRATIONAL fears, not governed by logic or anything else. It has nothing to do with men or boys; that's just you trying to make yourself fear more 'manly' because you don't happen to be afraid of the current topic?

So tell me, big man, what are you afraid of?
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I don't fear needles but I hate them. They are damn painful. I used to dread them, but I've gotten stuck by them so damn many times by an old doctor with shakey hands that it's pretty normal now.
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ROFL. Well said, King Kool.
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Believe me, it's hard to hold an elitist stance on plasma donation when you're netting an easy $50 a week from it.

You yourself say that a phobia is an irrational fear. That being the case, I can say truthfully that the things you listed don't have much of an impact on me. The dark is cake, and things like insects and public speaking may be a nuisance or cause tension from time to time, but I would be hard-pressed to say that I am ever actually afraid of them.

As a matter of fact, I can only think of one thing that I'm deathly afraid of.

The notion that one of these days, you'll say something I agree with.
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Believe me, it's hard to hold an elitist stance on plasma donation when you're netting an easy $50 a week from it.

If I were to donate blood, it would be because it's the right thing to do.

As a matter of fact, I can only think of one thing that I'm deathly afraid of. The notion that one of these days, you'll say something I agree with.

Being mildly witty is not a substitute for an answer. That stuff doesn't work in political debates, and it certainly isn't going to work here.

If you're done being dishonest, you can answer my original question.
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KKK... Priceless.

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Either priceless or a typo.

Wait, not priceless. What that other word?

Poor.
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If I were to donate blood, it would be because it's the right thing to do.

So is donating plasma. And I get that warm fuzzy feeling every time I do it too. It's just that along with that warm fuzzy feeling, I also get $30. And I haven't had a job for over a month. I miss steady income.

Everyone wins here.

The answer is no, I do not have any irrational fears to speak of. The only time I would exhibit fear bordering on phobia would be in a situation where I would have logical cause to be afraid of something, e.g. if I saw a bear in the woods. I don't have a phobia of bears, but if I saw a bear on the rampage, I'd certainly be deathly afraid of it, in which case it wouldn't be a phobia, because I would have real cause to be afraid of a bear in my presence. Can you accept that?

You know ..... I would bet dollars to donuts that you think I really don't like you, KK. But that's not the case. I appreciate you, KK, because you give me a chance to exercise critical faculties that I rarely get to use in an applied setting. I like opposing you, not just for the sake of it, but because you always manage to say things that I disagree strongly with. A lot of times, I sit in front of the computer and my brain just shuts down. But you keep me on my toes, man. I hope I keep you on yours.

Maybe that'll put some of our little spats in perspective.
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"Excuse me, I AM EXTREMELY UPSET RIGHT NOW AT THE LACK OF PETER IN THIS TOPIC." - Psycho Penguin

Oh, and to keep this topic at least slightly on-course....

As atrocious as the guy's spelling and grammar are, he's right on all counts.
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"Excuse me, I AM EXTREMELY UPSET RIGHT NOW AT THE LACK OF PETER IN THIS TOPIC." - Psycho Penguin

The answer is no, I do not have any irrational fears to speak of.

This probably means if you have one, it's something you never encounter, like public speaking. For instance, I have a phobia of bees, but that doesn't come up often since they're only around really in the summer.

I'm pretty sure the majority of people have a phobia. Maybe you're someone who doesn't, but it's more likely it's something you never have to deal with (like snakes or something).

You know ..... I would bet dollars to donuts that you think I really don't like you, KK. But that's not the case. I appreciate you, KK, because you give me a chance to exercise critical faculties that I rarely get to use in an applied setting. I like opposing you, not just for the sake of it, but because you always manage to say things that I disagree strongly with. A lot of times, I sit in front of the computer and my brain just shuts down. But you keep me on my toes, man. I hope I keep you on yours.

You wish. My brain is always like this. People often tell me to 'stop thinking' or 'don't read too much into something.' For me, that's not an option.

And whether you like me or not isn't my concern.

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I'm the type to cross bridges as I come to them. If it's out of sight, it's out of mind, and I don't even concern myself with it (on a scale like this, that is - globally, it's a different matter).

So I guess that ends this debate.
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"Excuse me, I AM EXTREMELY UPSET RIGHT NOW AT THE LACK OF PETER IN THIS TOPIC." - Psycho Penguin

I'm the type to cross bridges as I come to them. If it's out of sight, it's out of mind, and I don't even concern myself with it (on a scale like this, that is - globally, it's a different matter).

Where did this response even come from? What are you talking about?
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Oops... KKK. That was pretty silly, yet sort of unintentionally funny.

Anyway, oh dear god refers to the fact that after the age of about 10 anyone afraid of needles has something seriously wrong with them, hence my oh dear god. I remember some sort of flu vaccination thing once in high school where one girl got so hysterical about getting the shot that she had to go to the hospital due to her hysteria. All I can remember thinking is "seriously, don't be a wimp and take the shot." You say repeated exposure will fix phobias, well most people face a barrage of needles over their lifetime (in particular their first 20 years), so by teenage years you should be able to handle it.

As for phobias, I have none. However, I do have two fears that could become phobias, if I were to be weak enough to allow them to take hold in that degree of power.

-Nuclear war (scares me badly, though I know worrying about something that will destroy us all with no chance of survival is not a worthwhile use of my time, so I don't dwell on it. Problem solved for that potential phobia).

-Dying alone (this one has made a nice resurgence due to Jen leaving a week or so ago, but I know I can still find me a good woman and live "happily ever after". Mind you, I am not going to just grab the first woman that appears and marry her or something either... a boy has GOT to have standards.).

Anyway, That is my piece... K KK? ;)
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Anyway, oh dear god refers to the fact that after the age of about 10 anyone afraid of needles has something seriously wrong with them, hence my oh dear god. I remember some sort of flu vaccination thing once in high school where one girl got so hysterical about getting the shot that she had to go to the hospital due to her hysteria.

I can understand that. At my age, I can do things that keep me from losing it, but it requires the cooperation of the doctors (like giving me time to chill out).

All I can remember thinking is "seriously, don't be a wimp and take the shot."

That's like telling someone with no arms in a rowboat to "just row." Or someone without musical talent to "just play." If you earnestly don't have a phobia, you won't understand.

You say repeated exposure will fix phobias, well most people face a barrage of needles over their lifetime (in particular their first 20 years), so by teenage years you should be able to handle it.

I get a shot every few years, as with bloodwork (which is even worse). It's not nearly enough to get used to it. I was able to develop a system to get through it, but the irrational fear is undiluted.

I think I can even remember when it started; when I was nine, I didn't want to get bloodwork because it hurt. So, their wise response to this was to have other nurses hold me down and do it anyway while I screamed.

Yeah... this kind of **** had the tendency to stick with you. When I got the chip in my tooth fixed, I had to stare down a syringe going into my GUMS, but the dentist was patient with me, and let me chill for a bit. That made a difference. I was still scared, but I had time to gather myself.

If you want to understand a phobia, think of it this way. Imagine you were afraid of a bear. But at the same time, you knew that being afraid of the bear was silly, because let's say this was a circus bear with no teeth and a gentle mood. He's as gentle as a cold Pop-Tart. There is nothing to fear from the bear whatsoever, but you are still afraid of it. You know it's not rational, but you can't rationalize away the fear. And the only advice you get is from so-called friends who tell you to "just do it" and they can't understand that the fear is real, no matter if the source is a smart or stupid one.

That's what it's like.

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I think you guys are being a bit closed minded, and I'll have to actually side with KK on some points. Yes, Brian, this does mean the end of the world, so get in that bomb shelter. ;D

I am petrified of the dentist. I'm pretty certain it's a phobia. I tremble horribly on the ride there, in the waiting room, and try to suck it up during the drilling, but all I can think about is "OH PLEASE GOD THIS ****ING HURTS SO GODDAMN BAD OH GOD I'LL PERSONALLY GO TO HEAVEN AND STAB YOU IF YOU DON'T MAKE THIS STOP YOU PIECE OF SHOE!!!"

I'm like a woman delivering a baby in the dentist office; partly the idea of my mouth being changed forever, but mainly due to the pain. I'm no wuss, and I can take most other pain without flinching; but you see, novocain doesn't work on me. It literally doesn't. It numbs my lips, and my mouth feels swollen (probably because it is), but I can still sharply feel the drilling. In case you're wondering what it feels like, it feels like someone has a drill and they're drilling your teeth with it. How accurate! The dentist confirmed the novocain having no affect, as he gave me either 16 or 17 shots over three hours last time I was in and I could still feel it just as heavily and sharply as the first one.

Due to this phobia, I frantically brush my teeth to take care of them just so I don't have to see the dentist. Sadly, a cavity or two creeps in every now and then.

And that is why I disagree with you two, and you would, too, if you were subjected to such torture.

I'm also afraid of needles, but it's not a phobia. Like I don't dread blood work, since my veins are easy to find and I usually get someone that knows what they're doing at my doctor's office. But donating blood? Eff you, good samaritan. A great phobia of needles runs in my family; sadly, I got hit with the dentist bit instead.

-Zoop
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I have a very bad needle phobia, but I haven't taken a "barrage" of needles at all. I know that in high school you're supposed to get a bunch of needles in a certain grade, I remember when everyone was filling out the forms but no one gave me one. The teacher said that since I was two grades ahead of my age, I would have to wait two more years to get themn. Well I graduated high school before those two years passed and no one ever said anything. I can remember only ONE needle in the past like... six or seven years, it was a flu shot, and when they gave it to me I thought I was going to die. If I see someone getting a needle on TV, I absolutely cannot watch it under any circumstance.

It's a serious phobia, but it never interferes with everyday life. I'm sure I could handle a few injections if need be, but if circumstances ever necessitated me giving blood (I.E. taking my precious body fluid) I think I'd probably run away to Alaska. One time a few months ago my father was talking about giving blood while I was driving home, I had to pull over so I wouldn't faint.

Anyway, you're free to pass whatever judgments you wish. If I could control this, you damn well better believe that I would. I imagine it's hard for someone to understand whose body ISN'T working against them.

I strongly dislike needles, but I don't do anything other than anticipate and hate the idea of the pain.

I've had to have stitches put in, which came only after several needle shots near the wounded area, and it sucked. I hate needles. I think it's only natural for the body to resent impending pain, even if the brain says "Hey, it's for the best."

I doubt anyone likes needles. However, most people's dislike only goes so far as mine, or perhaps almost that far. Such people say "Hey, it's just a piece of metal that won't kill you," but phobias truly are a mental condition. There's not a lot you can do about them, and they're the reason Fear Factor exists.

I can watch that show and I can see myself doing most of what many people won't do, but there are things on that show that I wouldn't do. Namely, I wouldn't eat any of that crap. How do people do it?

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I have a phobia when it comes to viewing or taking place in limb removal. I seriously quiver at the thought of having a piece of my body removed, whether that be the feet, legs, arms, hands, etc., and absolutely cannot watch anything that revolves around that kind of thing. While it's becoming really lame and fake these days with all those artificial limbs that they have in horror movies and such, or guns firing at zombies and shooting their heads off, or other such paper thin, effortless crap like that, true decapitation or other such limb removal is beyond me.

I also used to have a phobia when it came to blood, and I even fainted once in middle school, when my science teacher did an experiment that involved poking a hole into a person's skin and then watching the red blood cells flow, but it may have also had to do with who the teacher chose. Two people volunteered to be the subject of this experiment, those two being a girl whom I really didn't care too much for but liked in the "eh" sorta way, and this one loud, annoying, slightly retarded guy (and I don't mean retarded as an insult, he did have some problems with him that one could pity) who was an attention whore, and whom pretty much the whole school hated the guts off of. The teacher chose the girl for some reason that I will never be able to comprehend, especially because he was one of those people who made fun of girls and all their pains with life. I would have watched with glee had it been the retard, since I was an arrogant jackass back then, and that's also not to mention he had absolutely no problem with blood, except the occasional "AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH YOU'RE NASTY" burst of anger every now and then, which wasn't exactly serious.

But a year or two after that I sorta didn't find anything too overly gruesome about blood. I couldn't bring myself to donate blood/plasma, but blood itself doesn't bother me unless it's extremely excessive in the weird type of the way.

Needles have never bothered me since I was like six or seven. I dislike getting shots, I find them uncomfortable, but hey, so does everyone. I've had shots in my gum about six times in the previous year (combining two things that most people tend to hate: dentistry and needles), and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. Maybe it's because modern dentistry has evolved so much in the previous couple decades, that it's impossible for someone who knows what he's doing to cause the slightest bit of pain. So while needles and dentistry are annoying, uncomfortable, and something I would rather not go through, they have not seriously bothered me for years.

So no matter what way you look at it, everyone has phobias of some sort. There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of when having a phobia of something, be it blood, needles, insects, or whatever else. There are a lot of people who can't understand what phobias they have, so all the more power to them, in my opinion, just so long as they don't criticize others for having phobias, because they have nothing to do with maturity, although they tend to be greater in the infant years. They're psychological problems, and ones that we can't get rid of. Or if we can get rid of them, we're too afraid to get rid of them. Fear is a part of life, and it can't be removed; it's one of those "to have perfection you must have imperfection" things.

By the way, how did this topic change from insults on "nice guys" to discussion of phobias? ;)
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By the way, how did this topic change from insults on "nice guys" to discussion of phobias? ;)

My fault. Both these are touchy subjects for me. I'm so damn sick of hearing about just "go out there and talk to the girls" from people who have no idea how difficult it can be.
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I agree with the rant in principle. "Nice" guys are not the same thing as guys who are afraid to make a move on a girl, contrary to what many "nice" guys think. And many "nice" guys wouldn't be so nice were they actually given options with women more easily.

One of the greatest truisms in life is the following: action is always rewarded over idleness. If you never take the initiative to tell a girl your feelings, ask her out, make a move, etc., you will always lose out. You can risk the chance of being rejected or accept the certainty of being lonely and miserable. The guys who win out are the ones who make the move and take the chance. This has nothing to do with being "nice." This has everything to do with being self-confident and socially mature.
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My fear:
-Dentistry: It's just the unknown really that gets me.

Over the past year I've had a barrage of blood tests, I think the final count was 36 by the end of the year...

...Damn you doctor...Thinking I had bowel cancer, then meningitis, then a rare head virus that had potential lethal consequences, then a lung problem....

Honestly people, she was saying all of that when it turned out to be a very nasty strain of Salmonella (food poisoning - correct me if I spelt the proper term wrong) which landed me in hospital for a week...

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I've only one phobia I can think of, and those are having bugs crawl on me. Yes, it's pretty wimpy, I admit, but damn, that creeps me out! It's just the idea of having it mingle with my skin and hair... I really don't mind most insects, probably because of frequent encounters, but those medium-sized ones that you can feel but not see are just awful. I'm not quite sure when this developed (indeed, I have childhood memories of willingly letting bugs crawl all over me), but man do I wish it never had.

As for needles and women, I've got no problems. Well, that's not entirely true; it depends on the girl. If I suspect she's going to be highly judgmental (and this goes with anybody, whether it be a boss or my parents or what have you), I'm a bit nervous about what she'll think afterwards, and how she'll act towards me as a result of that, though it's nothing to lose sleep over. THAT kind of girl runs in high numbers, so what's one loss to me?

But, KK, if I may advise you on this fear of girls you say you have (and I know I'm not exactly qualified, but eh, here goes): most of the time, girls really aren't decided about you, and you don't face immediate rejection. What I mean is, when you have a fear of them, you can be sure that they don't think nearly as much about you, critiquing you and such, as you think about them critiquing you. That is, men like you - and if I've read you right, I know the type - tend to over-think things, you psyche yourself out, you imagine obstacles that aren't really there. You think you're going to stop talking suddenly, say/do something stupid, she's going to laugh at you, she's going to reject you, etc. There're all sorts of fears like this. Unless you're attracted to total *****es, though, these aren't going to actually happen. With this in mind, though it can be tough, I know, you've got to force yourself to do something. The conditions will almost never be exactly perfect, but even if they are, will you make your move? I think this verse applies here quite well (Ecclesiastes 11:4):

"Whoever watches the wind will not plant;
whoever looks at the clouds will not reap. "

In other words, if you're always looking at the conditions before acting, you'll never get anything accomplished. Just don't think about it (if you're old enough, perhaps some substances to, err, make you think less, if you catch my drift, might be in order), try it out, and see how things work. You can start small, talking to strangers before people you know or desire more intimately, but you should also set goals for yourself. What's important is that you need to make yourself make progress. If I say, "I'm going to get over this! I'm going to stop drinking!" and yet I persist in going to the pub, always saying I'm going to stop some day, but not today (to drinking buddies, no less), you know how it goes: I'll never quit. In the same way, if you want to get over your fear of talking to women, start today. And God knows the sooner you do, the sooner you'll get over it.

For more information, read books about the subject. If memory serves, Great Expectations by Charles Dickens has a lot to do with a young man who's obsessed with a girl who doesn't return his affections. I don't know your full story, but maybe you can draw parallels. And do they have a Women-Fearing Men Anonymous organization?
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