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| From: shoecream | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:26:46 AM | Message Detail |
| Split Infinity: Search your FFX guide for A594 and A593. You spelt "lightening" wrong. =D --- http://losmonos.netfirms.com/faqs/ - FAQer tools If it's not illegal, it must be moral. ~Non Sequitur |
| From: shoecream | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:28:00 AM | Message Detail |
| Scratch that, you spelt "lightning" wrong. =D --- http://losmonos.netfirms.com/faqs/ - FAQer tools If it's not illegal, it must be moral. ~Non Sequitur |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:29:44 AM | Message Detail |
| Seems that nobody's here anymore, so I'm going to bed. Wonder if Siniroth will see this tomorrow. Hope so. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:41:55 AM | Message Detail |
| Well, this isn't something you just "miss" when coming to a board like this... --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: djg40 | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:54:31 AM | Message Detail |
| Yeah, these kinds of things are not simply "glanced over." Especially when the person's name is in the topic title. --- Psycho Penguin: "I don't know how I got so high." Current Project(s): Secret GBA Game |
| From: CRancher | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:09:43 AM | Message Detail |
| for one or for all? well, that depends on what SinirothX might do in the future so it's a change or no-change thingy-ma-jig. but wow, if SinirothX has received awards for the contributions, then SinirothX could be an idol to some current or potential contributors... very sleazy indeed j/k no intention of any form of offense to all I'm currently unstable yet peaceful so be fear-free "...let there be peace on Earth and [let there be peace on this topic]" too bad I can't make it rhyme ---- currently having trouble relieving sugar rush... |
| From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:28:41 AM | Message Detail |
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| From: Mr Jason | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:31:16 AM | Message Detail |
| Juan Dixon = 0 FAQ's, Reviews, Codes, and Gamesaves Stay out of this --- Thank you, St. Peter. I look forward to hearing your response to the following: ( | ) This is your ass. It is very fat.-Seanbaby |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:34:20 AM | Message Detail |
| ^ LOL. Much to learn, young one, much to learn. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com/A/Admiral1018/AMMS/AMMS_Intro.htm |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:36:39 AM | Message Detail |
| BTW Steve, way to be a hypocrite again. Where was this "innocent until guilty" attitude when you accused Colin of plagiarizing? Oh yeah, it wasn't there, because you didn't like him. The evidence is here if you wish to see it. Stop changing your opinion whenever it suits a particular situation. That's part of the reason no one takes you seriously. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com/A/Admiral1018/AMMS/AMMS_Intro.htm |
| From: Deadmeat X | Posted: 1/4/2004 2:29:25 AM | Message Detail |
| The thing that's bothering me, is that Sini seemed to have copied a mission briefing from Split's guide, but the mission briefing was in the game almost word-for-word, right? So, Split can't really claim that Sini has stolen his 'creative writing', since he didn't wrote the briefing himself. Thus, I don't think what Sini did is too serious. Here's what I think what happened: Sini is writing for the mission. For some reason, he forgot to write down the mission briefing from the game. So he thinks: "I could wait and add it later on, or I could just copy it from another guide". The thought behind this is that if you copy something from a guide that copied it from the game, you're copying from the game, not from the guide. Follow me? Like, if you copy a quote from a book in a bookreport, you're still basically quoting the book, not the report...still following? So, I don't think it's much more than a bit of laziness on Siniroth's part. He failed to see some traps, and now he's got to hang? Give him a break, one act of lazy 'copy-and-paste' work doesn't make him a thief. --- No sheep were harmed during the making of this sig FAQ's: 6 Current FAQ: Ratchet and Clank 2 |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 2:35:06 AM | Message Detail |
| [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 2:40:10 AM | Message Detail |
| Deadmeat X, bottom point still stands: he didn't write some/most parts the guide by himself. Instead he took an entire section from mine, made some effort to reword it, reorganize it and voila. There he goes. |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 2:42:12 AM | Message Detail |
| Also, you haven't read the entire first post in this thread. If you have, I apologize, but from the wording of your post I concur you haven't. |
| From: AstroBlue | Posted: 1/4/2004 4:39:54 AM | Message Detail |
| CJayC still hasn't replied to some plagiarism I reported like a year ago :( Anyway, IMHO only that specific FAQ should be taken down of SinrothX's. Even that's slightly harsh considering it's like 2000kb worth of work and probably 5kb (at the most) has been copied from Split Infinity. But then again... I guess that copied bit corrupts the whole FAQ. --- AstroBlue | (CRP #4127) <BGFC> <FSSFHRB> Visualshock! Speedshock! Soundshock! Now is time to the 68000 heart on fire! |
| From: Gbness | Posted: 1/4/2004 5:07:39 AM | Message Detail |
| Mr. Jason: First of all, that's Steve there. And if you've been around for at least a couple months, then you don't really need FAQs to know. AstroBlue: It's 400K. My opinion is that he should speak for himself. Stop putting him down (though I'm a bit late to say this), and wait for what he has to say. That's my two cents. --- FAQs: 18 - 2245K - #71 | Come post at Board 19313. Why the heck would someone sig one of their own quotes? I just don't get it. - Gbness |
| From: BSulpher | Posted: 1/4/2004 7:05:42 AM | Message Detail |
| I have to agree with Gbness here and let the boy defend himself. However, it is not looking good based on the preliminary evidence. --- Yap, yap, yap! Shut your trap! - Flak |
| From: FFMrebirth | Posted: 1/4/2004 8:29:33 AM | Message Detail |
| I think you'll like this one on the RC, Admiral: From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/3/2004 8:41:46 PM | Message Detail Writing for GameFAQs is a hobby that some people think will get them somewhere in life. As he has thousands and thousands of KB under his belt. LOL! --- FAQs: (487KB) Reviews : 75 (401KB) IImastersII: [it] feels good to kill some people. |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:14:30 AM | Message Detail |
| It seems most of you guys are really taking sides rather quickly without hearing both sides of the story. To me I'd rather hear both sides of the story instead of after hearing from someone about what someone did without proper justification of hearing both sides of the story. Even in a time like this the term Innocent until proven guilty can take part, how can we if there's people taking sides already as well as jumping to conclusions. Maybe we should think with clear heads rather than start jumping at someone that either doesn't know about people accusing him nor doesn't want to say something at the moment. Ever since I got off the computer for the night I didn't think there would be people doing such bickering over such a thing without thinking through such things like "Did he really do it?" or "Did he do it intentionally?" These are questions that nobody has brought up, maybe about if he did do it but the other one I didn't see anyone wonder. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: Michael Tyler | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:15:03 AM | Message Detail |
Well if SinirothX did really do it, then it's a real shame that he didn't come clean and admit it. Chances are we all would be going a whole lot easier on him. --- •— Reptile | Codes: 46 | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• In the land of the killers, a sinner's mind is his sanctum. |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:32:01 AM | Message Detail |
| There's lots of evidence here that Siniroth did copy SI. I'd love to hear Siniroth's story and I would be happy if he turned out he didn't do anything after all. Unfortunately, it does look like he did something. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:34:40 AM | Message Detail |
| Even so, is there anything that points to it being intentionally or unintentionally. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:35:06 AM | Message Detail |
| He logged in about 15 minutes ago, so we should (hopefully) hear from him again. |
| From: I Beat Kao | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:36:19 AM | Message Detail |
| If everyone can stop jumping all over him and making ridiculous accusations, maybe Siniroth can get a chance to post. I know I wouldn't want to just jump into a topic like that if I were the plagiarizer. Wait until he posts and then you can jump all over him, not when he's not here. >_> --- Dude, your dead body smells. |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:39:26 AM | Message Detail |
| I Beat Kao, imagine it was you who it happened to. Perhaps you're thinking you'd handle the situation differently that I did - hell, so did I in the past when reading about some other issues, similar to this situation. All that was 'forgotten', when I found out about *this*. I was angry - and still am. |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:40:14 AM | Message Detail |
| If everyone can stop jumping all over him and making ridiculous accusations, maybe Siniroth can get a chance to post. I know I wouldn't want to just jump into a topic like that if I were the plagiarizer. Wait until he posts and then you can jump all over him, not when he's not here. I agree, you guys are attacking someone especially when he hasn't even posted here at the moment that I am typing this. If it was me I would be really mad if someone was trying to attack me while I wasn't on the boards and whatnot because backstabbing is not the way to go about this. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: I Beat Kao | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:42:17 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm not blaming anyone here. I'm just trying to say give the guy some breathing room. The statement isn't directed to you but all the other (numerous) posters here. How do you think Siniroth will feel when he sees 125+ posts in this topic... directed to him. --- Dude, your dead body smells. |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:43:34 AM | Message Detail |
| He logged in about 15 minutes ago, so we should (hopefully) hear from him again. What if he chooses not to post in this topic? It doesn't mean that he logs in that he's going to post, I know since there are times when I log in and not post. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 9:46:11 AM | Message Detail |
| How do you think Siniroth will feel when he sees 125+ posts in this topic... directed to him. I know I wouldn't want to show up myself, but I am not taking sides I just would like to know both sides of the story that's all. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: Joni Philips | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:05:42 AM | Message Detail |
| How do you think Siniroth will feel when he sees 125+ posts in this topic... directed to him. Well, you feel bad, especially when half the posts are insults against your FAQ's. --- Goku- Look Vegeta! People popcorn! Vegeta- Ah! What is he on?! |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:22:49 AM | Message Detail |
| Well, he supposedly logged in, but has yet to say a thing about this topic. Interesting... Oh, and I'm not necessarily taking sides. I just think that all that was presented is pretty condemning on his part. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: eternal breath | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:25:53 AM | Message Detail |
| How do you think Siniroth will feel when he sees 125+ posts in this topic... directed to him. Gee, are you worried about hurting his feelings? You have to admit that no matter how prolific he is, the evidence against him is damning and should be treated as such. It's just as bad to jump to defend him as it is to condemn him without hearing his side first, although personally, I can see no good explanation for what he appears to have done. --- Yeah, whatever. <ê†é®ñ࣠߮ëå†/-/> |
| From: shoecream | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:31:42 AM | Message Detail |
| Gee, are you worried about hurting his feelings? You have to admit that no matter how prolific he is, the evidence against him is damning and should be treated as such. It's just as bad to jump to defend him as it is to condemn him without hearing his side first, although personally, I can see no good explanation for what he appears to have done. Couldn't have said it better. *doffs hat* --- http://losmonos.netfirms.com/faqs/ - FAQer tools If it's not illegal, it must be moral. ~Non Sequitur |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:43:12 AM | Message Detail |
| I feel bad it has to come down to this, personally... But then I have to keep in mind the many times I've been screwed over by other authors (plagiarists), and as such I think it'd be a shame for someone else to have to put up with the same sort of crap I did. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:48:02 AM | Message Detail |
| It's bad that everyone has to get all over him all because of one little thing, and I never seen such in situations like this even past cases weren't like this so many people wasting their time judging by what one says without proper justification of hearing both sides. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:53:09 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm not going to say anything more until Siniroth posts here. He's a great author, I'd really hate for all of this to be true. It does look true, but maybe Siniroth does have some good reasons for why these two guides are similar. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: eternal breath | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:57:37 AM | Message Detail |
| What if he chooses not to post in this topic? Then it's his own fault. I'm not taking sides here but by not defending himself, he's leaving more time and room for people to jump on him. I find it very hard to believe he hasn't seen this topic and if he's innocent, he should waste no time in explaining all this. --- Yeah, whatever. <ê†é®ñ࣠߮ëå†/-/> |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:57:44 AM | Message Detail |
| Maybe it'll be best if WE ALL wait for him to post, if not maybe we can get in a chat to discuss the issue instead of going about flaming him on the board when he hasn't posted nor hasn't said anything about this issue. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: SinirothX | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:26:09 PM | Message Detail |
| O_O In regards to your first issue of the topic, there are a few a things that need to be addressed here. The first is that whilst playing and writing for the game, when the Mission Time! appeared on-screen (must've been late or something to that effect), I neglected to copy down the information, and I took it from your guide. Now, I thought this would be harmless, however, now that I see that, I realize that I should've asked you beforehand, so this was totally wrong to do. I should've at least creditted you if I were to do this. I will fix this immediately, and I assure you that this was the only one this was done with. And also, I do tend to move back and forth between abbreviations (noted in the "Using the FAQ" section), but, LB. is not one, so, I'm sorry, and glad that you caught this. It was not meant to blatantly anger you or cause anything like this to happen. My apologies. I now would like to address the second issue you brought up: the one about the accessories section. I honestly have no excuse for this one, as there were quite a few accessories that I did not obtain throughout my playthroughs (I guess due to laziess, or lack of motivation to write, I dunno...), but I missed them, and I resorted to various sources for information on them (approximately 7), one of them being your guide Split. Now, I realize I was wrong and unjust in doing this, and should've looked for them myself. I admit to doing this, and will get to fixing this with my own information. I CERTAINLY did not mean to start any thing like this, and again, I do apologize for any inconveniences or problems this caused for you. That is all. --- SinirothX | FAQs: 17 (5291K) [#17] | Reviews: 17 (171K) Currently FAQing: FFX-2, FF7, FFMQ - I am beyond sexy. |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:34:29 PM | Message Detail |
| He finally speaks on the situation, hopefully everyone will calm down now since he apologized for not asking and it can be a common mistake at times, but knowing Split he probably won't accept apologies. I for one do but something like that happened with someone doing it with one of mine I'd take it up with them personally not go about bringing it up on the boards. If they don't want to correspond I would just go about reporting it. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:37:05 PM | Message Detail |
| [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:37:26 PM | Message Detail |
| And it should be "okay" now? I personally don't think so, but that's me, sorry. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:38:56 PM | Message Detail |
| Thank you Siniroth. Hopefully, SI will calm down now that you explained this and promised to remove his info. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: djg40 | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:40:59 PM | Message Detail |
| Whoa, why are you guys (me frog, Warhawk) accepting his apology? I don't think you are the people that can do the "accepting." If he was going to use Split's information in his guide, I am sure all he had to have done is email Split and ask. By doing that, he would have gotten everything legally, and none of this would have ever happened. --- Psycho Penguin: "I don't know how I got so high." Current Project(s): Secret GBA Game |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:41:56 PM | Message Detail |
| And it should be "okay" now? I personally don't think so, but that's me, sorry. No plagiarism is never "okay" after someone apologizes. However, I'm saying that SI shouldn't shoot Siniroth in the head for admitting that he took Split's info and promising to remove it. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:44:06 PM | Message Detail |
| Whoa, why are you guys (me frog, Warhawk) accepting his apology? I'm not accepting his apology, I'm thanking him for admitting he took info and not trying to pull a "I didn't do it, it was a bunch of freakish coincidences" thing. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: eternal breath | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:46:04 PM | Message Detail |
| Willful plagiarism is seriously wrong no matter how sorry you are about it and SI doesn't have to "cool off" just because Siniroth apologized. Being lazy/tired/etc. is no excuse for cutting corners in such a fashion...and if you do, you have to be prepared to face the consequences. --- Yeah, whatever. <ê†é®ñ࣠߮ëå†/-/> |
| From: me frog | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:48:01 PM | Message Detail |
| Oh well, I guess everyone just has their own opinions then. --- Homer Simpson:Hello? Operator? Give me the number for 911! If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:48:45 PM | Message Detail |
| Whoa, why are you guys (me frog, Warhawk) accepting his apology? I don't think you are the people that can do the "accepting." Who said I was accepting, I'm just stating that if it was one of mine that it was taken from I would've dealt with it through e-mail or AIM, instead of bringing the subject on the boards. If that person didn't bother correspond with me, then I would go about reporting it, so please be sure to see what I am trying to say without try to jump to conclusions like most were doing in the first place. --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: Split Infinity | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:50:08 PM | Message Detail |
| Warhawk, and wait for like a year before something actually happens (like somebody pointed out in this matter)? Okay, Siniroth, you made your stand. Now I suggest you read thru more of the topic and see another point I brought up about you copying stuff from my Character's Status section. While I'm at it, I hope you can explain following: #1 In my guide in CH1 I cover all other areas first, then I go to Besaid. Naturally, after completing it, all that's left is Zanarkand as a hotspot. At which point I get final entry White Magic added to my main menu, as pointed out here... ...Back on board of 'Celsius' check your main menu - final entry White Magic has been added. Switch one of the gals to white mage and have her learn curative magic which will prove mightily useful in upcoming boss battles... Now let's take a look at your guide... After finishing off storyline mission 2 where you nail Boris, you cover Besaid area *first*, then you take the long trek of covering all other areas, leaving Zanarkand for last. And what do I find there... The introduction to this area is quite melancholic, and I almost let out a tear as I sat there and thought of that moment of one of my favorite games of all time. Anyway, after it, and seeing it degraded into nothing more than ****ing tourist attraction, you may continue *resists urge to drive stakes through everyone's heads* Note: White Magic option has been added to your main menu. You had white mage dressphere all that time, yet this is the first time you mention the last entry to main menu? #2 Strategy for Guardian Beast. Aside from mentioning its attacks etc... Here's the recommended setup for this fight: Mythril Gloves acc (buy in Zanarkand shop), any type of acc that grants elemental strike properties, Helios Guard GG - pass thru red gate to obtain Auto-Protect, Raging Giant GG - pass thru yellow and blue gates to obtain Berserktouch - then inflict berserk on Guardian Beast to never see Curse and Damocles Photon. What do you have? <Another suggestion is to have the Raging Giant Garment Grid, move on through the blue and yellow nodes, and get Berserktouch to inflict on Guardian Beast. Guess what this does. It prevents the usage of both Damocles Photon, as well as its Curse attack, meaning all you'll have to deal with is its normal physical attack, again, dealing laughable damage. The problem here being? Were you to actually write your own strategy, you'd know that berserk wears off after a while if inflicted on enemy. Therefore you WILL still see Curse and Damocles Photon after time lapse. You did steal this information and nothing will force me to think otherwise. There's more... |
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