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| From: Deflux | Posted: 9/7/2003 7:57:32 PM | Message Detail |
| Today at work, there was a new employee being
trained. He happens to be black, and everyone else who works at the
store is white. Anyway, I showed up towards the end of his shift at
about the same time that my manager and her husband showed up to check
on something. My manager went into the office to look for something while I helped the new guy count down his drawer, punch out and leave the store for the day. As soon as the guy was out the door, my managers husband opens his mouth and spits out "so how is it working with a colored guy?" I answered with "Um... I didn't notice a difference." He kept pestering me and making small jokes that were really bothering me. Then he said "So what new words did you learn today? You learn new words when you work with colored people." I thought about it for a second and then said "I learned the word 'whack'." He asked me what it meant and I told him that it's "something you say when something or someone is totally ****** up and out of order." He didn't understand, so I told him "You are whack, because you're racist." His face turned red and he went outside and smoked like three cigarettes while waiting for his wife. I hope he never comes into the store again. THE END |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:06:48 PM | Message Detail |
| I'm not racist by nature, but there are times when
it is called for. For instance, I delivered a desk to one of my father's tenants, who happened to be black. Her little kid opened the door. Now, if the kid had had any semblance of courtesy, common sense, or intellect, I wouldn't have thought a thing. But it quickly became very apparent that this kid was... well, he was a ******. Every other word out of this twelve year-old punk's mouth was about *****es, blunts, or hos. I wanted to smack him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are upstanding people, and then there's the trash. ******s are just trash that happen to be black. Just like how us scummy white folk are often referred to as trailer trash. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:08:06 PM | Message Detail |
| Who the hell even says "colored" nowadays. Is he like 70 years old or somethin'? --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:10:41 PM | Message Detail |
| I'm not racist by nature Come on now Chad, let's not lie to ourselves. Don't take offense to it or anything, but you know yourself to be a little racist. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:12:15 PM | Message Detail |
| Don't take offense to it or anything, but you
know yourself to be a little racist. Like I just said, anyone who speaks to me with any semblance of respect, courtesy, or intelligence will recieve the same in reply. But if you're going to act like a ******, you're going to be called one. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Snow Dragon | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:15:41 PM | Message Detail |
| This is one of the few times where I actually
share Chad's viewpoint and agree with it 100%. --- smoking simian: I don't incite, I instigate |
| From: StarFighters76 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:15:42 PM | Message Detail |
| Deflux PWNED!! I'm not a racist, never have been never will be. I may get nervous around other people, but that's how I am. They have never personally done anything wrong to me, so why should I be bothered by them. Besides, I'd want them to accept me for being gay right? It only be fair. --- Just say I'm right or prove me wrong which is it? If you're gonna make a joke topic, atleast make it a funny one. |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:16:03 PM | Message Detail |
| But if you're going to act like a ******,
you're going to be called one. ha ha, well that just says it all now doesn't it. I mean, you don't really see anything wrong with saying someone who is acting like an ass (or whatever) is acting like a ******? --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Deflux | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:16:09 PM | Message Detail |
| Is he like 70 years old or somethin'? No, they're total hillbillies, though. I don't know where they came from. Like I just said, anyone who speaks to me with any semblance of respect, courtesy, or intelligence will recieve the same in reply. But if you're going to act like a ******, you're going to be called one. Okay, but why does race come into play if it's just about courteousness? |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:17:55 PM | Message Detail |
| "But if you're going to act like a ******,
you're going to be called one." And when you use words like ****** to describe someone who exhibits stereotypical behaviors, you're going to be called a racist. Which, in this case, is accurate. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:27:57 PM | Message Detail |
| I mean, you don't really see anything wrong
with saying someone who is acting like an ass (or whatever) is acting
like a ******? There's a difference. If someone is just being an ass, they're being an ass. But sometimes, one can be a speicific type of ass. In this case, it's a little kid eumlating the behaviors of his favorite drug-addicted cop-beating rap stars, when in reality the kid would piss his pants if ever faced by anything more bad ass than a little girl on a tricycle. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:28:18 PM | Message Detail |
| Okay, but why does race come into play if it's
just about courteousness? I guess BTB's saying that some races don't know how to act right. tsk, tsk BTB, I expected better from you. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:31:16 PM | Message Detail |
| So then, BTB, would it be wrong of me to call
you a ****** if you were acting like an ass? Or is it only correctly applied when it's those "darn Negroes" acting up. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:32:28 PM | Message Detail |
| Haha... I think you're missing my point. I know many black people who I consider to be upstanding citizens, and I know plenty of them who are ******s. Just as I know a lot of white people who are little mroe than white trash. I see nothing wrong with making my insults race-specific when merited. Because, sometimes, imbeciles will act differently depending on their race. It's a proven fact. Just watch Jerry Springer for more details. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:34:21 PM | Message Detail |
| So then, BTB, would it be wrong of me to call
you a ****** if you were acting like an ass? Er... yeah. I'm not black. However, since I AM Italian, if I started acting like some kind of greasy mob hit man, it would be correct to call me a "wop" or something else of the nature. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:35:08 PM | Message Detail |
| ^Ah, dago was the word I was looking for there. And us Italians don't have the benefit of our racial slurs being banned words, either :P --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:36:53 PM | Message Detail |
| The n-word doesn't mean anything but that a person
is black. So what you're saying is, he's acting like a black guy. Which is not at all different than if I used a certain "f-word" to describe SF76. (Please don't take offense to that Mike, it was just the best example I could think up. But if it actually offends you, then I'll delete this post.) --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Karpah | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:37:05 PM | Message Detail |
| lol I have not heard the term 'dago' in years! --- Push button to turn on. Play with button to drive wild... <Proud fiance of the Psycho Penguin> |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:38:31 PM | Message Detail |
| BTBs defense is the most common type you'll see
used by racists. It's the notion that racial slurs actually have
legitimate meanings, and can rightfully be applied to people when they
fall into certain stereotypes. This, however, is not only racist, it's
extremely ignorant. The word ***** does not have the definition Chad is giving it. Go right ahead and look it up. No where does it define the term as a "a black person who swears, listens to rap, sells drugs, talks about his *****es, has illegitimate kids, etc." That's the stereotype that Chad has for a certain type of black person, and his use of the term is the racist in him showing his dislike of their actions. Thinking that racial slurs can be rightfully applied to people of a certain race without being hateful and racist is a joke. Stop deluding yourself. If you're going to be a racist, at least be an honest racist. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:41:00 PM | Message Detail |
| Stop deluding yourself. If you're going to be a
racist, at least be an honest racist. Leave it to The Admiral to correctly sum it up in one line. I love you man! --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:42:22 PM | Message Detail |
| Well, Michael... Insults are generally tailored to fit the character. You complain that some insults are race-specific, but have you ever stopped to thing that insults can also be gender-specic or age-specific, as well? You wouldn't call a guy a *****, would you? No, that makes no sense. And I don't think I made this clear before, but there are a lot of good, decent people. And frankly, I don't care what race you are. It's the person that counts. It's just that some of the not-so-good people tend to, well, fall into racial stereotypes. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:44:18 PM | Message Detail |
| It's just that some of the not-so-good people
tend to, well, fall into racial stereotypes. Yeah, you know what they should do? Collect all of the unsavory races up, and keep them away from the law-abiding white folk like Chad here. </racist sarcasm> --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:45:13 PM | Message Detail |
| The word ***** does not have the definition
Chad is giving it. Go right ahead and look it up. No where does it
define the term as a "a black person who swears, listens to rap, sells
drugs, talks about his *****es, has illegitimate kids, etc." That's the
stereotype that Chad has for a certain type of black person, and his use
of the term is the racist in him showing his dislike of their actions.
Thinking that racial slurs can be rightfully applied to people of a
certain race without being hateful and racist is a joke. Actually, if I recall correctly, it's synonomous with "idiot". But, due to the way it's been used historically, it now has a new meaning as an ethnic slur. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:46:28 PM | Message Detail |
| [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:46:41 PM | Message Detail |
| Yeah, you know what they should do? Collect all
of the unsavory races up, and keep them away from the law-abiding white
folk like Chad here. </racist sarcasm> Ok.... now you're just missing the point entirely. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Deflux | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:46:44 PM | Message Detail |
| That word means: A member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people. |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:46:46 PM | Message Detail |
| You reading text books written by the Klan? Where
the hell did you get that idea? --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:46:55 PM | Message Detail |
| You disgust me Chad, you really really do. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Psycho Penguin | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:47:32 PM | Message Detail |
| Black people generally call themselves these
"racial slurs" Just watch Training Day, Denzel said the word every 3
lines. Therefore, it's not the end of the world to stereotype a certain
type of African American by calling them a name that they gladly call
themselves. It's not like I walk down the street going "MY CRACKA" to every white person who dresses like me. --- [ Evolution ] Psycho Penguin - #7 < Proud fiance of Karpah > |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:47:52 PM | Message Detail |
| You reading text books written by the Klan?
Where the hell did you get that idea? I honestly have no idea o.O Jesus, this topic got ugly fast. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Deflux | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:48:31 PM | Message Detail |
| I wish you could close topics at anytime. |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:48:40 PM | Message Detail |
| It's not like I walk down the street going "MY
CRACKA" to every white person who dresses like me. Me and a friend of mine used to do that as a joke. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:49:37 PM | Message Detail |
| Black people generally call themselves these
"racial slurs" Yeah, but they aren't meant to be taken as racist remarks. The way Chad is using them however, they are. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:50:57 PM | Message Detail |
| Steve, the problem with that argument is that you
know blacks who use the word ****** aren't racist against blacks.
Because rappers and comedians choose to use words to describe their own
race doesn't mean it's okay for racists of other races to use them as
well. 99% of the time that someone calls someone of another race a
******, it's being used as a racist insult. Nothing more. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Psycho Penguin | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:52:01 PM | Message Detail |
| So, they use this "racial slur" for themselves and
cry when other people say it? God damn, people take things too
seriously. --- [ Evolution ] Psycho Penguin - #7 < Proud fiance of Karpah > |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:52:23 PM | Message Detail |
| Well, this got pretty nasty, so I think I'm going
to take off. I admit, that I can be racist at times. After discussing the issue with Jenn, she tells me even though I'm not the rabid type of racist that hates people merely because of their skin color, there's really not that much difference. And, well, I can't argue with that point. Make of this what you will. As for me, I'm off to do something more entertaining. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:52:57 PM | Message Detail |
| They "cry" when other people used racist, hateful
language to describe their race, yes. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:53:26 PM | Message Detail |
| As for me, I'm off to do something more
entertaining. Sure, have fun at the lynching. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Psycho Penguin | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:54:04 PM | Message Detail |
| If you have seen Training Day, I am using the
version of the word Denzel says, not the actual racial slur. --- [ Evolution ] Psycho Penguin - #7 < Proud fiance of Karpah > |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:54:47 PM | Message Detail |
| The version that ends with an -a is still a racial
slur. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Psycho Penguin | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:55:05 PM | Message Detail |
| Also, I have no problem with them being offended
by a racial slur.. until they start using it to describe themselves.
That's just a tad odd. --- [ Evolution ] Psycho Penguin - #7 < Proud fiance of Karpah > |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:55:35 PM | Message Detail |
Steve, just look at it like this: Karpah says she is ugly = not offensive I say Karpah is ugly = is offensive (not that I'm saying she is, because I've honestly never even seen a picture of her.) --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Deflux | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:56:17 PM | Message Detail |
| I should have just posted this on CE where it would have got a "LOL u werk retail" response or something. =/ |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:56:41 PM | Message Detail |
| Do you not read entire posts before you reply to
them, Steve? They have no problem with other blacks saying it because
other blacks are not racist towards blacks. --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Psycho Penguin | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:57:09 PM | Message Detail |
| I guess you have a point, but you're basically
saying black people are putting themselves down. I know they apparently use the word in a different meaning for some sort of "good influence" to the word, which is alright I guess... ... but it's a tad racist to hate all white people who use the word, even when they use it as a sign of just saying something positive. If you want to "own" a word, that's racism. --- [ Evolution ] Psycho Penguin - #7 < Proud fiance of Karpah > |
| From: BTB | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:57:20 PM | Message Detail |
| They "cry" when other people used racist,
hateful language to describe their race, yes. Ok, I just HAD to stop to point something out. Jesus, why do people care? I have taken as much insults, hate-filled speech, and random aggression as anyone else has, and I take it in stride. In fact, I'm actually glad that the people who wish ill of me have the courtesy to let me know ahead of time so I can either avoid them or kick their ass. Jesus, people need to stop beign such babies. So somebody thinks you're an idiot... big ****in' deal. You know in your heart who you are and that's the most important thing of all. If all it takes is a few nasty names to make you mad, you're going to have a very tough time surviving in the real world. Jesus. Sure, have fun at the lynching. LO ****ing L! --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:59:28 PM | Message Detail |
| You know, I've got white friends who use the
N-word, and it doesn't greatly bother me, because I know they aren't
using it as a put-down. Now if I was white, then I wouldn't use it even in a friendly way, but that's just me. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
| From: Snow Dragon | Posted: 9/7/2003 8:59:53 PM | Message Detail |
| You know in your heart who you are and that's
the most important thing of all. If all it takes is a few nasty names to
make you mad, you're going to have a very tough time surviving in the
real world. Right on. That's made the most sense of anything said in this topic. --- smoking simian: I don't incite, I instigate |
| From: The Admiral | Posted: 9/7/2003 9:01:14 PM | Message Detail |
| "If all it takes is a few nasty names to make
you mad, you're going to have a very tough time surviving in the real
world." Well, you're being accurately called a racist and it seems to make you somewhat annoyed. Isn't that rather hypocritical? --- How does an Advanced Meta-Mod feature sound? Take a sample tour: http://free.hostdepartment.com |
| From: Reptile654 | Posted: 9/7/2003 9:02:01 PM | Message Detail |
| Better make sure not to accidentally where the
bloody bed-sheet Chad. The other guys might laugh at you. --- •— Reptile | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• Alternate Account of Michael Tyler (wait, who the hell is that?) |
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