And once again we are at the bottom of the bracket for the second round of matches. Yesterday's winners (who were rather obvious but with one REALLY close match) are:

63 - AstroBlue
47 - Dark Vortex
58 - Meowthnum1
10 - SOng

The bracket, complete with CRP links (use them!) can be found here:

http://web.njit.edu/~dbm7/pbracket8.htm

Good luck to all once again!

3 - DMorgan
vs.
30 - Dallas

14 - CyricZ
vs.
46 - Gbness

6 - Kirby021591
vs.
27 - War Doc

54 - CVXFREAK
vs.
22 - Wolf Feather

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Devin Morgan | CRP #3579
NES Completion Project: http://web.njit.edu/~dbm7/

Wow, Trace beat DEngel and THayes. lol

30 - Dallas
46 - Gbness

6 - Kirby021591
22 - Wolf Feather

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Psycho Penguin rules!

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Dallas
Abstain
Kirby021591
CVXFREAK

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~ #5 ~

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30 - Dallas

46 - Gbness

6 - Kirby021591

22 - Wolf Feather
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Won't change until I get a girlfriend. Started 6/30/05

30 - Dallas
46 - Gbness
6 - Kirby021591
54 - CVXFREAK
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"You found a ppv without HHH! Now, can you find Waldo?" - Me
"I found 172 waldos in HHH's nose. Thats where they all hide." - PsychoPenguin

ABSTAIN

46 - Gbness

27 - Kirby021591

54 - CVXFREAK

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If you can't impress people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity

30 - Dallas
14 - CyricZ
27 - War Doc
54 - CVXFREAK


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DMorgan
Gbness
War Doc
CVXFREAK
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Games - http://users.ign.com/collection/A_I_e_x?objType=1
Guides - http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/recognition/45802.html

30 - Dallas (By a very small margin, sorry Dev)
14 - CyricZ (Again, by very little)
27 - War Doc
54 - CVXFREAK
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Mattman

3 - DMorgan
14 - CyricZ
27 - War Doc
54 - CVXFREAK

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Y.T.W.S.R.

30 - Dallas
14 - CyricZ
27 - War Doc
54 - CVXFREAK

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3 - DMorgan
14 - CyricZ
27 - War Doc
22 - Wolf Feather

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30 - Dallas (As much as I love Devin's work, Dallas won by a hair; very tough match)

14 - CyricZ (Another tough match)

27 - War Doc

54 - CVXFREAK

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#1 Peep
Maven used to job...now he doesn't have one... - imaybe

a.) Wow, Steve beat Culbert and Sini. lol

b.) Shark, that's just stupid.

c.) Jesus, with the exception of one match, these were insane.

3 - DMorgan
14 - CyricZ (a tough match)
27 - War Doc (a hard one, as I am a huge fan of Kirby's work; however, War Doc writes for a lot of hardly touched games, so he wins out)
22 - Wolf Feather (a hard one)
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

lol, I think my sentence has more merit. =) I beat a guy no one knows and a guy that plagarized, just give me the title. ;) lol
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Psycho Penguin rules!

30 - Dallas
14 - CyricZ
27 - War Doc
Abstain
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I am societies child, this is how they made me, and now im sayin what's on my mind and they don't want that. This is what you made me America- Tupac

But if plagiarism is such a detrimental trait to a writer, why did you win? =)
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

Because plagarism is a detriment? I don't understand the question.
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Psycho Penguin rules!

Not to feed the troll, but...

I beat a guy no one knows and a guy that plagarized, just give me the title. ;) lol

You say your reason for beating Culbert was because no one knew him, which hurt him. Then you say that you beat Sini because he plagiarized, which also hurt him (=detrimental).

And plagiarism is the uber detriment.
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

b.) Shark, that's just stupid.

not really. hes harrassed me in the past, plus ive never used his FAQs, and ive used dallas' faqs, and i like his more anyway
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You asked why I won if plagarism is such a detriment, though. Maybe I'm just confused.
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Psycho Penguin rules!

Shark: See the point later in this post. Also, just because you've never used someone's work -- and I find it hard to believe that you've never used Devin's, since he pretty much defines prolific (see the actual definition; not the GF use of the term) -- doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for them. That's why the CRPs are there.

Or maybe, according to a confidant on AIM, you know exactly what I'm implying, eh?

I take back what I said about plagiarism being the uber detriment. Or rather, rephrase it.

You won two rounds. That's a fact. No one can deny that.

You and Sini were both, at one point, in trouble for plagiarism. No one can deny that either (well, except you, but you could easily deny that Nixon was ever a president).

While plagiarism is definitely a moral evil, and proof of bad character, it does not detract from the quality of someone's work (under the condition, obviously, that the plargiarized work was removed). Because -- and here's where you tie in Shark boy -- we are not voting on character, popularity, or past malice (which is what the original tournaments were turning into), plagiarism should not be used as an argument against someone so far as the quality of their work is concerned (again, assuming it's all still their work).

Siniroth had to correct (or remove; I'm not quite sure) one guide. His others remain, which is why he's still prolific. As far as we know, everything up there is his work. Why, then, should we count the plagiarism offense against the quality of this remaining work?
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

3 - DMorgan
14 - CyricZ (only just, might I add. <3 Rich)
27 - War Doc
22 - Wolf Feather
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Reyn | Y.T.W.S.R. | FAQs: 43
The Official FCB Profiles and History - http://homepages.tesco.net/vicky.reynolds1

Oh yes, DINGO JELLYBEAN accused me of plagarism and it turned out to be false. Which is why I'm here now and fine. I mean, get with the times. Just because someone gets accused of something doesn't mean it was true.

Dingo also accused Devin and Nemesis of plagarism. You have to admit he wasn't the sanest of individuals.
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Psycho Penguin rules!

i havewnt used devins work because i dont own any of the games he has written for.

and u probably missed where i said id skimmed over both and liked dallas' work more.
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*is Shark463*

And I'm relatively sure it proved to have enough merit to invoke Ceej to make you take it down. Not only that, but you picked the worst source to plagiarize, if I remember. That alone deserves death. I mean, you want at least semi-accurate information. =)

And Sini could be here now and fine if it weren't for...I think it's problems with life or something.

The point, however, stands. Plagiarism is a poor excuse to vote against someone, in my opinion, which I believe I backed up, unless you have another sho- I mean, another argument against it. =D

With that, in order to keep this topic on track and to finish Steve's fun for tonight, I go back to St. Benedict.
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

Um. You never mentioned skimming Devin's work.

I'm not even getting onto you for voting against Devin. I got onto you for the snippy comment you made before it (as I would have if it had been about anyone) and then the shoddy reason for it.

I mean, come on. It was totally unnecessary. Plus you can break the ToS when you're talking about him behind his back on AIM. :)
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

i said i liked dallas' work better, which would say i looked over both of them
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Haha, not necessarily. I'm not accusing you of doing this, but there are definitely some people who would just assume that they like x's work over y's because they think y's rocks (or because they think that x sucks).

I'm like that with food, actually. If it looks/smells weird, I assume it's bad.
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

PP, any response to why you beat SinirothX then? I am curious myself. Come on, let's here it. :)
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Because 26 of 27 people liked my guides more?

Seriously guys, let's just settle it on AIM or soemthing. This topic should be for voting only.
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Psycho Penguin rules!

Actually, I felt that the point I made was needed (regarding plagiarism and how it affects votes).

Settle what, exactly?

And I'm doing homework. I'm going to finish it here by simply saying this. I was told about the topic you made. I respond as such: thanks for the congratulatory remarks! :)
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Sorry about this, Dev.
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

Anyway, seriously, don't **** up Devin's topic.
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XD at the entire topic. <3 PP.

30 - Dallas

14 - CyricZ


27 - War Doc

54 - CVXFREAK


PP- I did some work on our sekret project lolol.. i just got home from West Virginia. I'll talk to you soon on AIM.
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What is past is prologue.

I thought this tournament was going to be a tad dull with low turn outs. Boy I was wrong; there's an argument practically every round!

Plagiarism shouldn't matter because FAQs that are still up weren't the ones that were plagiarised. Other things like board personalities and whether you put your PayPal address in your FAQ shouldn't be negative voting reasons either; remember we should vote for the quality of people's work and not the people themselves.
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Reyn | Y.T.W.S.R. | FAQs: 43
The Official FCB Profiles and History - http://homepages.tesco.net/vicky.reynolds1

Crazyreyn is right, but it doesn't look like the voters are voting for the FAQs, as PP pointed out in his first post.
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What is past is prologue.

I will vote, but first I should put my two cents in. After all, I'd never miss out on an opportunity to bore my fellow GameFaqs users with my long, winding ramblings, now would I?

The tournament will never have "pure" results because it is voted on by regulars of the board. For similar reasons, jury members are required not to know the person being tried. If this were voted on in a different board or on GameFaqs itself (it's possible, right?), I think that the results would be far different with a whole different set of reasons why the results weren't pure.

The fact of the matter is, whether consciously or not, we cannot vote with completely unbiased reasons, even if the bias is present to a very small degree. I remember back to an earlier round, when someone (I forget right now) decided not to vote on two unknown authors to them because one wrote for Pokemon games, and they knew that it would be unfair in advance, and thus decided not to vote. A very noble thing to do, in my opinion. But, it does illustrate very nicely my point.

No offense to him (I need an example), but if Shark were to become prolific within the top 64, was an FAQing god superior to Adrenaline or Devin or whoever, he still would not win the tournament (or so is my theory). Why? Because he has a history of dislike. Because you already have reasons not to like him and consequently his guides. Maybe the votes aren't THAT corrupted, but impressions and past actions sway the votes even in this tournament. In one tournament, users were required to give reasons for their votes. That doesn't make it entirely reliable, but it's better than giving none at all.

As for reasons, voters tend to come up with many stupid ones. I'm not just talking about plagiarism or not knowing someone, although that probably did influence votes to some extent in certain matches. What about reasons like superior formatting? It could be argued that this actually is important to the FAQ, but the formatting would have to be absolute **** to affect my vote. Or how about range of games? How does writing for a certain game affect the quality of the guide itself? Does writing for older games make the guide better? Does writing for Pokemon make it automatically bad? Is having many guides superior to having few? I do not think such reasons support healthy voting. This tournament is about the quality of the guides themselves.

So, my point is: why argue about the votes? Anyone can vote for anyone else in this tournament based on any reasons they'd like. It's what they say here that counts, but what they say here does not determine their vote, if you understand what I'm saying.

Just my two, three, maybe four cents. As for voting...

3 - DMorgan

46 - Gbness

Abstain

54 - CVXFREAK
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See ya later.

3 - DMorgan
46 - Gbness
Abstain
Abstain

Once again, it breaks my heart to have to choose.
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CVXFREAK: "I'll sell you a copy of RE4 for $2."
Vyers: "Can't afford it."

And that's certainly where your vote would have gone, and that's fine, winnie.

Tom's a damn good writer, and it's not my place to try to say whether or not I'm better than he is.

But whatever.

As for what Kirby said, you're definitely right. It's always been a problem.
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"Women are like Voltron - the more you can hookup, the better it gets." | Y.T.S.W.R

3 - DMorgan
14 - CyricZ (very close call)
27 - War Doc
54 - CVXFREAK
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Currently Playing:ESPN College Hoops 2k5

30 - Dallas - I've used Devin's guides before and...well, they're just not as detailed as Dallas's. Still a great writer, but Devin just doesn't have those really tiny things that make him better.

Abstain

27 - War Doc

22 - Wolf Feather
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Let's all publicly humiliate this person:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/user.php?board=2000094&page=0

Shark: Voting for someone, and then changing your vote because you suddenly decided you don't like the person you had voted for, is ridiculous. Vote void.

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Devin Morgan | CRP #3579
NES Completion Project: http://web.njit.edu/~dbm7/

Shark: Voting for someone, and then changing your vote because you suddenly decided you don't like the person you had voted for, is ridiculous. Vote void.

the problem was i was doing the copy-paste thing, and i absent-mindedly cut dallas' name and not urs
so not void.
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