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| From: Gbness | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:10:46 AM | Message Detail |
| 8 - Joseph Christopher Never really bothered to care about the filler. His SC guides were brilliant. 57 - Rob McGregor Random pick. 40 - Aaron Tadeo This one was a toughie but I chose ATadeo since his guides were more organized. 25 - Yee Seng Fu CJayC's FAQs are ok... YSF has that awesome FF8 subquest guide though. 9 - Nemesis Dunno who the other guy is. 73 - Karpah Random pick. 41 - Ian Kelley Never saw Basel's work. 24 - marshmallow Good FAQs are FAQs filled with humor. However, I've never seen a FAQ written by Estil, so... Aren't the bold ones invalid reasons? --- FAQs: 18 - 2245K - #71 | Come post at Board 19313. Why the heck would someone sig one of their own quotes? I just don't get it. - Gbness |
| From: Masamune3 | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:16:24 AM | Message Detail |
| Once again, Steve adds his worthless and unwanted comments to destroy something that's been in the works for some time. GET OVER IT. If you think the tourney could be done better, do one yourself. And if you're too lazy, then leave Devin alone. He's doing a fine job, and I think the majority of the board agree. It is battle you can't win (yet another, I might add), so accept it and move on. --- ZRSHFT276 | "I may be drunk, but you're ugly, and in the morning I shall be sober." http://faqs.ign.com/articles/446/446326p1.html |
| From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/3/2004 6:08:17 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm sorry I don't accept mediocrity. I "don't get over" stuff that can easily be fixed. |
| From: Joni Philips | Posted: 1/3/2004 6:47:28 AM | Message Detail |
| So the only reason you beat Kao last year was because you're a board member? Just let the tournament run his course and complain at the end. So that these topics remain clear. 121 - Ed Osciak III 72 - Little Jewell (But he could use a search string in that Vice City FAQ) 40 - Aaron Tadeo 25 - Yee Seng Fu 9 - Nemesis 56 - War Doc (look at Trace's post for explanation) 88 - Basel 24 - marshmallow --- Goku- Look Vegeta! People popcorn! Vegeta- Ah! What is he on?! |
| From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/3/2004 7:02:47 AM | Message Detail |
| So the only reason you beat Kao last year was because you're a board member? Yes. |
| From: Minesweeper | Posted: 1/3/2004 7:12:24 AM | Message Detail |
| 8 - Joseph Christopher 57 - Rob McGregor 40 - Aaron Tadeo 25 - Yee Seng Fu 9 - Nemesis 73 - Karpah 41 - Ian Kelley 24 - marshmallow --- Nathan Norris | CRP # : 6165 | FAQs: 30 | KB : 4227KB | |
| From: djg40 | Posted: 1/3/2004 7:53:56 AM | Message Detail |
| 121 - Ed Osciak III 72 - Little Jewell 40 - Aaron Tadeo 25 - Yee Seng Fu 120 - CeLIcA 73 - Karpah ABSTAIN 24 - marshmallow --- Psycho Penguin: "I don't know how I got so high." Current Project(s): Secret GBA Game |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/3/2004 9:34:25 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm not even gonna bother stepping in, I'll just discount those 'invalid ones' and move along at round's end. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: SinirothX | Posted: 1/3/2004 9:51:33 AM | Message Detail |
| 8 - Joseph Christopher - the better writer in my opinion, plus I don't know much about the other's writing. 72 - Little Jewell - Little Jewell is a great writer, who has written some awesome stuff. All of his guides are greatly detailed, and you can tell he puts a lot of work and effort into them. 40 - Aaron Tadeo - ATadeo is another one of the the better authors on the site. I admire him for being able to write for so many RPGs (detailed guides, too). 25 - Yee Seng Fu - I honestly don't like Ceej's layout of his guides, and YSF's has a few problems but overall still look nice. Also, with all the RPG FAQs he does, he earns my vote, and also my admiration for writing so many guides when English isn't even his first language. 120 - CeLIcA - I'm not much of a fan of Nemesis' stuff, and CeLIcA's layout alone simply owns. He writes detailed guides, and never leave you with a sense of "where do I have to go?" or "what do I have to do now?" 73 - Karpah - VERY CLOSE match. Kevin has some great stuff, and he's written for so many games, but, Karpah has some awesome guides, EXTREMELY detailed, and some truly magnificant layout. She wins my vote here. ABSTAIN 105 - Estil - As Rich said earlier, I think Estil is one of the most underrated authors here, and also, I'm not that much of a fan of marshmallow's work. --- SinirothX | FAQs: 17 (5291K) [#17] | Reviews: 17 (171K) Currently FAQing: FFX-2, FF7, FFMQ - I am beyond sexy. |
| From: djg40 | Posted: 1/3/2004 9:53:35 AM | Message Detail |
| Devin: Mine is valid, right? We don't need to provide reasoning until round 2, right? If not, let me know. --- Psycho Penguin: "I don't know how I got so high." Current Project(s): Secret GBA Game |
| From: Michael Tyler | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:50:41 AM | Message Detail |
121 - Ed Osciak III (Although I think Ed should make more use of Section Headers, he still has a writing style superior to his opponent. Joseph seems to just ramble on throughout his walkthrough.) 72 - Little Jewell (His writing is a lot more descriptive and exact, although it sometimes veers a little off topic.) 40 - Aaron Tadeo (Henry's paragraphs are far too long, his format is far too simple, and he somehow structures his sentences so that they are difficult to understand. Aaron has impressively detailed writing skills as well as a great looking format.) 104 - Jeff "CJayC" Veasey (YSF's work is painfully constricted, thus very, very difficult to read for any length of time.) 120 - CeLIcA (I think that Nemesis's work, although good, shows a lack of detail in many areas of games. Nemesis appears to cut corners in his FAQs, and CeLIcA does not. 56 - War Doc (War Doc has the ability to write great FAQs for games that I can't even imagine writing ANY kind of FAQ for. He clearly does a lot of research on a game, and pumps all of his knowledge into his work. Still though, this was a hard match to decide, because Karpah's work shines in so many areas, and at times her format can be superior to his.) 41 - Ian Kelley (Basel's FAQs are just plain unimpressive, and appear to contain mostly information that you could obtain by watching the cut-scenes of the game.) 24 - marshmallow (This guy has one of the best looking formats around, and he backs it up with exceptional writing. Estil's work is congested, and very difficult to read in many areas.) --- •— Reptile | Codes: 46 | FAQs: 16 | Total Kb: 1562 —• In the land of the killers, a sinner's mind is his sanctum. |
| From: shoecream | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:54:21 AM | Message Detail |
| Sorry for missing the first division... 121 - Ed Osciak III The other guys' guides seemed "mass produced," as well as having filler. 72 - Little Jewell I picked this guy last night, but I can't remember the reason why. I think it's cuz of the awesome D2 and GTA guides. 40 - Aaron Tadeo Nice FF series guides. 104 - Jeff "CJayC" Veasey YSF's guides seemed manufactured, especially all those ones for Brave Fenser Musashi. 120 - CeLIcA I was blown away by the sheer awesomeness of Nemesis's CRP. But some of his maps looked mass produced, and CeLIcA wrote a good guide for an RTS, something which rocks. ABSTAIN Don't want to insult anyone here. 88 - Basel 105 - Estil --- http://losmonos.netfirms.com/faqs/ - FAQer tools If it's not illegal, it must be moral. ~Non Sequitur |
| From: shoecream | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:58:25 AM | Message Detail |
| Heh, I just noticed that I'm in division six. *wonders if anyone will get the joke* --- http://losmonos.netfirms.com/faqs/ - FAQer tools If it's not illegal, it must be moral. ~Non Sequitur |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/3/2004 12:01:06 PM | Message Detail |
| Dan - Hence it being optional. You don't have to, but if you are, they better be legitimate. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: TestaALT | Posted: 1/3/2004 12:06:26 PM | Message Detail |
| 121 - Ed Osciak III 57 - Rob McGregor 40 - Aaron Tadeo 25 - Yee Seng Fu 9 - Nemesis 56 - War Doc 41 - Ian Kelley 24 - marshmallow |
| From: Varalys the Dark | Posted: 1/3/2004 2:05:28 PM | Message Detail |
| falsehead here - Devin, I wondered if it would be possible for you to update my position on your list as I have had 32 FAQs and a kb higher than what is listed for quite some time now. Unless there is a reason you haven't changed it in which case. Sorry to bother you. --- J-Lo insured her ass for $10 million you say? Does that include contents? http://hotgirlongirlaction.blogspot.com/ |
| From: BSulpher | Posted: 1/3/2004 2:28:44 PM | Message Detail |
| You have an accruate count (excludes half of KB from co-authors and image KB), then post it or e-mail Devin with it and he can adjust you (it will not affect your positioning in the tourney though). --- Yap, yap, yap! Shut your trap! - Flak |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/3/2004 2:32:39 PM | Message Detail |
| I checked it, and there was a mistake. So minus the 1 map you had, the KB count on my page is accurate. Thanks for letting me know. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: matt91486 | Posted: 1/3/2004 2:41:05 PM | Message Detail |
| Unless of course you have the cure-all solution, then I'd love to hear it. Now, now Devin, of COURSE Steve has a cure-all solution. He just won't tell you what it is; he'll keep it to himself and whine about how you never enact it. --- <34> "OMG MATT91486 IS THE ONE!" - King Broccoli |
| From: BSulpher | Posted: 1/3/2004 2:46:07 PM | Message Detail |
| His "cure-all" ideas get lost in his "House Of Cards Logic" that he employs in any argument. --- Yap, yap, yap! Shut your trap! - Flak |
| From: Haunter12O | Posted: 1/3/2004 3:44:15 PM | Message Detail |
| Are we supposed to give out reasons? Because not everyone is. --- Haunter12O Chickenboy I am faster than the hand that pulls the trigger. -Xsquader |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/3/2004 3:47:13 PM | Message Detail |
| Haunter - For round 1 matches, no. But if you're going to just say what you did for several of those reasons, then you should just not give reasons period. Later rounds, they are required though. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: Warhawk | Posted: 1/3/2004 3:53:34 PM | Message Detail |
| Which rounds will there need to be reasons Devin? --- He's going James on us. -panzar dragoon |
| From: kevinb500 | Posted: 1/3/2004 4:24:14 PM | Message Detail |
| *makes mental notes of who isn't on the Christmas gift list for this year* Seriously, though, all contests will have a degree of subjectivity attached to them. Whether it is because the person is well known on the boards or that their FAQ's get published. I could whine and state (for example, nothing personal intended) that Steve only voted for Rebecca because she is his fiance and that it represented a serious conflict of interest. But why?? That one vote will be integrated with the other votes. Granted, I'm getting my butt kicked right now but it still doesn't matter. Except for the people that just did random voting without scanning over the author's work, I think this is the best solution unless one can come up with something totally objective. That, of course, means setting up a concrete set of guidelines that -all- the FAQ's of an author must be compared against. Then use some sort of scoring system to get an author's average score. Of course, by that time, we wouldn't need to vote since it would become automated. Bottom line, if you want to gripe and whine about how something is done, that's fine. However, you should be ready to provide a short and long term solution to solve the problem instead of constantly belly-aching about it. For me, anyway, complaints without proposed solutions are worthless. By the way, I didn't say the solutions had to be cure-alls, just steps in a direction to help solve the problem. </soapbox> --- Classic Arcade FAQ's 'R' Us We are here to make you into lifetakers and heartbreakers. |
| From: Gbness | Posted: 1/3/2004 4:25:38 PM | Message Detail |
| From Round 2 onward. --- FAQs: 18 - 2245K - #71 | Come post at Board 19313. Why the heck would someone sig one of their own quotes? I just don't get it. - Gbness |
| From: Devin Morgan | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:13:54 PM | Message Detail |
| Kev - We TRIED to come up with reasonable solutions for most of the complaints in past tourneys. If you haven't noticed, that's why new rules and such have been added each time since the first one, to attempt to better improve the tourney. But since you spoke up, let's hear what you think would actually help our situation here? BTW - For those who have yet to vote, this round may end up being open an extra hour or so, due to my going out for the evening. So please do so if you haven't already... --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 Prolific Writers' Ranking Page: http://www.accentral.net/list.php |
| From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:24:28 PM | Message Detail |
| I coulda sworn I offered the solution of removing non-board members from the tournament. Maybe you guys should read. |
| From: War Doc | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:33:34 PM | Message Detail |
| Devin: Actually, I'm not complaining about how the tournaments are run, I was just making a point as to other complaints. I think they are fine the way they are right now, I don't really see any reason to change how you do them. In order to implement the totally objective tournament, though, would require quite a bit of time since making a guidelines and a scoring system for FAQ's would be a pretty monumental endeavor. Steve: So if one doesn't participate in the message boards, then their FAQ's are basically worthless and not worthy for competition? That seems wrong since those writers did take the time to write those FAQ's regardless of how long ago or whether they are active on the boards. I thought that the FAQ pages came first, then the message boards came afterwards. That still boils down to this being called GameFAQ's not Message BoardFAQ's. I believe you could come up with a more viable solution then this. C'mon, you're an answer man. --- 1 lb C4, 200 ft det cord, cable, and battery is a great problem solver Living by chance, loving by choice, killing by profession |
| From: BurningFox III | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:47:44 PM | Message Detail |
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| From: BurningFox III | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:52:23 PM | Message Detail |
| Joseph Christopher- Not a fan of either’s FAQs, but he seems a little better to me, even though he has a decent amount of filler in some of his FAQs his format is significantly better than his opponent. Rob McGregor- Not a fan of Jewell’s FAQs. First of all Jewell’s Diablo II FAQ can easily be outdone by the Battle.Net coverage, and all the lists are probably taken from it... GTA Vice City is done to Hell and again, and big FAQs aren’t the way to impress me. Aaron Tadeo- Put simply, the other guys format SUCKS. Yee Seng Fu- I’m not really a fan of Ceej’s work. I don’t really like either’s FAQs much though. CeLlicA- Has a nice format and good information. War Doc- The first FAQ for a difficult old game is better than the 50th FAQ for FFX. Ian Kelley- He has a better format, and doesn’t mooch the in-depth FAQs as much Marshmallow- Hilarious and good in the information zone for the most part. --- BurningFox and BurningFox II.... banned :( JuanDixonFor3 (7:04:10 PM): i never blow my temper online |
| From: Juan Dixon | Posted: 1/3/2004 6:48:29 PM | Message Detail |
| Steve: So if one doesn't participate in the message boards, then their FAQ's are basically worthless and not worthy for competition? That seems wrong since those writers did take the time to write those FAQ's regardless of how long ago or whether they are active on the boards. I thought that the FAQ pages came first, then the message boards came afterwards. That still boils down to this being called GameFAQ's not Message BoardFAQ's. I believe you could come up with a more viable solution then this. C'mon, you're an answer man. It will help make the tournament quicker since people who don't visit the message boards lose about 95 percent of the time. I agree totally with your 1st paragraph, and everyone always says the same thing, so how come the board members ALWAYS win? practice what you preach, my friends. |
| From: bmtaylor | Posted: 1/3/2004 6:57:03 PM | Message Detail |
| Ed Osciak III After a quick opening statement it's straight into the game info. I'm also not a fan of the ASCII section headers that JChristopher uses. Aaron Tadeo The format just felt more 'together' on Aaron's stuff, so he gets my votee. Yee Seng Fu His guides need a bit of elbow room, as they look a little squashed. The info contained within though, more then make up for the compressed feeling. Karpah Very simple, no frills layout. Basel The lack of any dividers (from what I could see) in IKelly's guides swung the vote for Basel. Estil It's the return of those ascii headers that I hate the look of. A simple layout for Estil tips the scales against Marshmallow. --- A cement mixer collided with a prison van on the Kingston Pass. Motorists are asked to be on the lookout for sixteen hardened criminals. |
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